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Zelgadis
09-06-2002, 04:51 PM
I know i'm probably being insubordinant, and might anger some of my clanmates and friends by saying this, but I just need to talk.
As much as I seem to hate all of the Fallen, I've been doing some thinking. It's more of a conditioned reflex than anything else, I've got no real reason to hate them... I know they've done their share of underhanded and cruel things, but it's only to be expected really. I was about to say how much I hate them, and complain about their whining and hypocracy, but I've decided that that's just getting nowhere. I'm a healer at heart, even if I've been getting more and more warriorlike by the day. Lately it's seemed Grendel has favored the fighters more than anyone else - especially his shaman. So I want to go with the will of our mighty ruler, and get as many uglies as I can.
The things that I think of most when I picture the Fallen are first and foremost, their dangerous claws and strong warriors. Second, I think of their complaining. Third, I picture their healer - heals everyone, no matter which clan. Or at least she did when we were killing the wasps etc. Caelyth? Name something like that. You know, when I saw that, I wanted to make up with the Fallen. But I couldnt, I'm in a clan that is at war with them! What would they think?
I'm in a really confused situation right now...
All I can say is this: No matter what my feelings are, I'll still remain loyal to my clan and fight all you Fallen. I'll fight as well as I can, there's no other option in my mind. I just hope that this war ends... I don't know how much longer I can take this.
CornFed
09-06-2002, 05:44 PM
I appreciate your outlook on the situation. The healer you speak of is also trapper, and she is a good one at that… Caelyth is someone whom I respect very much…
Many of us find ourselves questioning what exactly we are fighting for… I can only say that I share in your outlook, and will fight forever for the, quickly misjudged, honor of my clan the Fallen.
I’ve had moments like these, which you speak of, with the Legion. Which is why I conduct my self with honor and respect when I’m there fighting them.
Lastly I would like to thank you for bringing things like these to be heard by all…
-Trapper Bain
Lurker
09-06-2002, 09:22 PM
You see our claws defending and enforcing our rights on our land and the way of Uthgol.
You see our healers serving and worshipping the ways of the Grendel.
You see our complaning, for when the ways of Grendel are not followed, and rules are broken.
You speak of hypocracy? In this war, we have not broken a single rule of engagement, can you say the same for yours? We are indeed chosen and blessed by Grendel, but we will take our rightful place the way a proper Grendel's child supposed to, not the ugly ways.
Zelgadis
09-06-2002, 09:30 PM
I say hypocracy, and I mean it. Think hard about the things you complain about, then think about some of your previous actions.
Oh - and is it a rule of engagement to have more attackers than defenders? I thought your clan said the teams should be even. It's wasnt quite even today when it was 4 of your strongest against 3 of us, and as far as I know only one of us being strong enough to have learned the penalties of death. So yes, I can call you hypocrites. And you can't argue it.
As for my own clan? We never complained about anything like that, because we do it ourselves. And we know it. But we're almost all less powerful than you all, save Malice and Olak, and a few others. You know that. So go ahead and call things fair if you want, or unfair. I could care less. By now I think you should know that war is pointless, aggravating, stupid, and most of all: unfair. It always will be, there will always be someone crying about having a big disadvantage. This post is the most I've complained about anything, and I'm hardly complaining - I see it as stating the facts.
Zelgadis
09-06-2002, 09:32 PM
One more thing: after the event tonight I had high hopes we had put all this behind us. I guess there's still anger in me and in you. But I healed Sedicious, multiple times. I thanked Bain. I socialized with many from your clan. I just want to forge a bond between us :(
masterz
09-06-2002, 09:56 PM
one of the guidelines was 3+ defenders and it no longer applies for 1:1 under 3 it has to be even.
~was going to make a speech but decides to shorten it~
please follow the guidelines, consequences can be harsh... no threats, just warning. *shrug*
CornFed
09-06-2002, 10:09 PM
Agreed…
From what I was told, If you want to “full” raid (as many members as you want… ) there as to be at least 3 members of the defending clan awake… otherwise if they have 2 then you can send 2…
If this is not the case… let us use this opportunity to clear the air, now…
Also, we once again proved we can respect each other during our duty for Grendel…
-Trapper Bain
Lurker
09-06-2002, 10:10 PM
yup, if number of defenders is below 3, then only equal amount of attackers come to the defenders or less. But if number of defenders is 3 or more, then the attackers can be of any number.
So we do follow the rules, all of them, still. Whether opponent breaks em or not.
Malice
09-06-2002, 10:16 PM
Being just a dumb cow I can't possibly comprehend these rules, so you're going to have to deal with it.
Malice the Minotaur,
Warlord of Grendels Chosen,
Commander of the Valleys,
Master of the Fane,
Lurker
09-06-2002, 10:18 PM
we realize your handicap, Malice. May Grendel have mercy on your soul, and take it before we bring your body to one of our Evisceration Chambers.
Malice
09-06-2002, 10:21 PM
Grendel favors the strong pink skin. He doesn't ask that we follow your petty rules. Are you claiming to be able to speak for Grendel, or be equal to him by laying down rules and saying that it is his will, heretic? Let all know that Lurekus is a hypocrit not only because of his actions in this war, but because he claims to serve Grendel by destroying Faunt the traitor, when he himself is a traitor to Grendel.
Malice the Minotaur,
Warlord of Grendels Chosen,
Commander of the Valleys,
Master of the Fane,
Lurker
09-06-2002, 10:24 PM
that's what fleshlings consist of, absolute lack of coherence of their ways of thinking.
PS: aw, editing your upper note to have more coherence. It is still illogical, stick to the simple things, cow.
Malice
09-06-2002, 10:37 PM
Think what you will heretic.
Malice the Minotaur,
masterz
09-06-2002, 10:48 PM
seems even more disputes have come out of this, well... Brittok, Gruloch and I agreed to the guidelines so I try my best to get my clan to follow them with good success. Malice... you kill everything that i've seen in one claw swipe anyhow... so how does the guideline apply to you when you can raid alone? :p
[if you havent figured it out by now, yes I play Chasm the polished clawed, shiny, purty, docile looking death birdy *eyeshift*]
ANYWAY At least we did show we can serve Grendel first, and kill eachother later. I was pleased overall by everyones effort *shrug*
CornFed
09-07-2002, 06:25 AM
Originally posted by Malice
Being just a dumb cow I can't possibly comprehend these rules, so you're going to have to deal with it.
Duly noted…
-Trapper Bain
Zelgadis
09-07-2002, 07:49 AM
Our leader has been asleep for a long time now, but he warned us beforehand. He placed Malice and Splokk in charge, more or less, but Splokk decided he didnt want to have any power. So basically, what Malice says goes right now. Also, like I was touching on before, this is war. There shouldnt be any rules, they'll just continue the war for years to come. I, personally, believe in only one rule for this situation. It's a free for all. Kill the enemies - massacre them even, run when you have to, use whatever tactics necessary and available - be it flying, or staying in the mountain range.
In hopes that this war is going to come to a peaceful conclusion, I've started to work more on my healing powers than my firebreath. But I don't think this war is going to end without Brittok here. He should be waking up soon, according to what he said before he went into deep rest.
CornFed
09-07-2002, 08:08 AM
I prefer an official stance, not half talk… As Malice has control of the Chosen, at the moment, is it the Chosen’s official stance to throw out these rules??? How then does Chasm and his Legion stand???
-Trapper Bain
Malice
09-07-2002, 04:06 PM
All I said is you don't seem to think I have enough mind power to comprehend your war, and apparently since I wasn't at the negotiations I can't say what my boss told me so, since you don't think I know what the situations and the rules you made up are, I'm not going to follow them. Simple as that. Normally I believe in respect of the enemy and fair treatment. If it is silly of me to expect that I will get that in return, then I can just as easily forget it.
Malice the Minotaur
Lurker
09-07-2002, 07:05 PM
you have already forgotten them,infact they were forgotten the next day in the morning. And nobody argues with you, Malice. It's a known fact, and we dont really expect anything new. No need to explain your reasoning, or excuse it in any way. You did what we truly expected of you.
Whether your leader is a leader at all, to agree to the rules and not enforce them, whether your leader is even around at all. That is indeed another question, but a question we really do not care about. If gone then gone, just another fleshling, hopefully his soul has learned the secrets of cycle of life and death and was reborn as an undead.
Then why do you meddle around, posting reasons why you dont follow the rules and so on, what difference does these...words do?
No need to excuse yourself, you did what we expected of such inferior creature as you to do, now the rest are indeed a curious ones to witness, are they like you...are they as inferior as you, or do they possess higher functions? But once again, strands of being have little for pity, and when your body will be dragged to our Evisceration chamber, we will feel no pity, no matter how cute you look with a ring in your nose.
Master Builder Lurekus.
Zelgadis
09-07-2002, 07:10 PM
Lurekus you are an arrogant idiot. You sicken me.
Lurker
09-07-2002, 07:28 PM
Undead sicken many, wyvern. That's how Grendel wishes us, our flesh and minds are a brood for many many things that ...cause sickness.
By the way, I must point out that not all of the Chosen are as inferior as that cow fellow. Take Linh for example, even though he had his past transgressions,but he in a way..redeemed them.
This morning, I have managed to pretty easilly goad that creature into a duel. An absolutely foolish duel, which had more odds for his defeat then victory, and it knew that. I even managed it to give its word to leave Chosen's clan incase of defeat. Naturally, it was defeated, no matter if it had a slim chance on victory, it was defeated. It upheld it's word and did abandon Chosen. A honoroble creature.
A foolish and disgusting creature that holds its pride and ego over its clan's well being.
Malice
09-07-2002, 09:14 PM
You try to drag me to your evisceration chamber Lurekus. You are a fool indeed. You can not even kill me, you wave your white flag even when the odds are in your favor two of your pitfully weak clansmen against me. I don't rationalize or excuse my actions, because I have no need to. I am stronger than you, so I kill you. Those are the ways of Grendel, not your pitiful excuse for war rules. You are hardly the person to speak of power or pity. I pity you. I pity the fact that two of my grunts killed you four times in a row. I pity Bain, because while he was breaking your precious rules, my grunts killed him. As for leadership....well I will say this pinky, if you think Gruloch is a better leader, then I'm going to laugh in your ugly face. Next time you come out of your lair waving your white flag, you had better be prepared to kneel before me and kiss the earth I grace with my hooves pink skin.
Malice the Minotaur,
Warlord of Grendels Chosen,
Commander of the Valleys,
Master of the Fane,
Lurker
09-07-2002, 10:45 PM
white flag? news to me, field plower. Sure we used that to send messages or deal with uglies, but you seem to try to twist it that we do it a lot. It was not 2, but 6 grunts, and due to uglies magickery all of my physical and mental attributes were non existant, a thing fixed by the way. Bain broke no rules for he is of the Fallen.
And aye, I shall say that Gruloch is indeed a wonderful leader.
I read your notes, and I keep finding no reasoning in them. Sure there are sentences, all twisted in beneficial way for you, or damaging way for us, but no reasoning at all. Nothing solid, just words. Hm, in a way..pretty smart for a field plower.
Forsooth
09-08-2002, 02:18 AM
[Crudely scratched on a stone tablet near the shrine. A large red feather lies under the tablet.]
Amazing how the war rules change to match the Fallen's actions. No doubt this is due to the skill of their magicians.
Redwing
A free chimera who
Has better things to do
Than claim titles undue
Lurker
09-08-2002, 02:33 AM
how is that ? And who are you anyway? Someone who holds no part to this I suppose. What do you know of the rules anyway, or are you jusy blurting out phrases behind the corner ? Our own enemy Chasm confirmed these rules, what are you talking about? One more words twister?
Forsooth
09-08-2002, 04:34 AM
Oh, I make no claims of impartiality. I love the warmth of the sun, the touch of the wind, and the taste of a good liver. I also love a good laugh - and the pretensions of both sides have given me a bellyful.
I especially like the way the Fallen thirst to be honored by their enemies. They'll be drinking stars' milk first.
Redwing
Redric
09-08-2002, 05:17 AM
hmm, I still have know part in this war, nore should anyother but Legion and Chosen, as far as I can tell, standing on the side lines, No one is winning this war, yet. I was an enemy of the Fallen, but, they aren't so bad, as long as you stay off their land, sure, I'll admit I may consider it large, but hey, like they say, you want them off, kick them off, I'd bet if there lair is gone, they will pack up and move, because they were forced off. The Undead have there, strange ways, as do Chimera and Humanoid. I may side with Fallen in the future, I may side with Chosen, or, I will stay on the sidelines. As for the rules, if someone breaks them, thats there choice, Fallen says Chosen broke the rules, Chosen says Fallen broke the rules, well, someone is breaking them, so, do you really want to keep them? If they only get broken, then why bother? To make the war fun? Well, its not fun, when the rules are broken left and right. This is how I see it, from the sidelines.
Lurker
09-08-2002, 05:35 AM
just a few notes. First of all,while you're free to attack and be attacked by anything, Redric. Fallen will by no means accept allegience of a wanderer. Second of all, whether rules are broken by others or not, Fallen chooses to stand by them and follow them. But that's pretty clear and ...doesnt really matter for anyone, it shouldnt anyway. This whole note has grown too long. Sure, it's amusing to pick on the field plower, but this word dribbling begins to finally bore me.
CornFed
09-08-2002, 06:20 AM
I’ve never broken these rules… I’ve too much respect for this war, and my clan…
It’s been Malice’s goal to make lies about Fallen breaking these rules, so as to justify his dishonor…
In the eyes of Grendel, lies the Truth… This is all that matters…
-Trapper Bain
-Trapper Bain
Zelgadis
09-08-2002, 07:53 AM
You know, I think I've finally figured out the real cause of this war:
arrogance
Everyone has a little bit, but the main contenders here blow me away. I'll admit, even I have my share, but I'm not proud of that at all and I've really been trying to fix it - if it's possible. I've found that masks can be your best friend when you're trying to figure something out, that's why I have such a large collection. Malice, very arrogant, but does have reasons to be. Gruloch, I remember a conversation with you in which you insulted all chimera and said one of my retorts was 'witty for someone with such a tiny brain'. That was when I chose sides in this war, it wasn't when my clan told me we were at war against you. Every single attack we've made, has been optional. Only those who wanted to come came. And I've come to almost every single one of them trying to prove that chimera can be smarter than a former ugly. I really don't have to prove it, either. It's just a grudge, I guess. Unfortunately, I realize the only way I can win at all is if I fly - and since I'm a healer and I try to help my allies when possible, I always get targeted first. When I say always, I mean always. Lurekus - say there were three of us infront of you: Me, Malice, and Kagak. Who would you go for? Thus I fly, so I don't die immediately. I'm not going to feign strength when I have little, I can die off one of your light hits. But I can cause a considerable amount of damage, on multiple enemies. So flying is the way to go. Dalamar... what a pain why did you have to learn poisonbreath? ;) Now I always target you first if you're there, as do my chimera clanmates.
Arrogance is not a good quality, not at all. All it seems to do is make you look stupid and cause trouble. Unfortunately, some monsters are so incredibly arrogant that they don't even realize it. Let me say this - Come on! We're monsters, not uglies!
Redric
09-08-2002, 10:26 AM
Did I say alliance? NO! Have you made "deals"with WM, yes. Gneus, Pikachu the Spirit, how ever long ago that was. I never said you made alliances, or that I wanted, or have an alliance with you, I know when I see a Fallen member in my general area, I don't attack them, and I don't seem to get attacked. So there :p
Malice
09-08-2002, 12:17 PM
*yawn*
Lurekus I would have expected more from your rotted brain than to lie about your surrender. You and Sedicious both came to the top of your lair, Sedicious waved his white flag immediatly. There were no uglies there. Sedicious pleaded with me to leave, "as there is nothing you could do against me." Those are his words. I guess you aren't quite as smart as you would like to think you are. You are afterall only a husk of a former ugly, and only half as smart as one, if you're lucky.
Bain you didn't break any rules hmm? You teleported to our lair in plain sight of me, my grunts killed you. You teleported back again, and my grunts killed you again. Two attacks in five minutes, that is against your rules. Respect for the war. Ha. Go kiss Gruloch ass some more, thats all you and Lurekus are good for anyway.
Malice the Minotaur,
Warlord of Grendels Chosen,
Commander of the Valleys,
Master of the Fane,
CornFed
09-08-2002, 06:07 PM
**
Let me define raid for all you Fallen.
It is: A sudden, unprovoked hostile act, by bandit's or armed soldiers intent on looting.
or
A sudden invasion of a place for information gathering, looting, or destruction.
** By Malice
I wouldn’t expect you to remember saying that…
However, don’t question my honor Cow… Every attack I’ve been apart of has been with the rules close to heart and mind… I wonder, can you say the same… That my dear, Malice… is the point…
And to set the record straight… the second time, I teleported in.. 15 minutes later the area was clear… I then disarmed the entrance traps… and you, Malice.. killed me… not your grunts… After which I didn’t return… why? Not because I fear you Malice… but because I have caused damage… thereby officially making it a raid… by even your standards…
For your sake and the sake of your clan, I hope Brittok returns soon... before it's too late...
-Trapper Bain
Lurker
09-08-2002, 06:48 PM
Bain, even by his standards? What do you mean! He's the cow that used to "hunt" around our main entrance for hours, strangely enough ending up doing it at our main entrance. And whence killed, coming back dozens a time. I dont think there "are" standards at work, I think there is an intent to blacken our name. He did try to make it look like I am a heretic didnt he? Just not a very imaginative, but more or less clear intent to blacken our name. I do not really understand why, not like we care of other's opinions about us, he is just this desperate in extra allies I am guessing. You know, hoping some more wanderers will raise up in disgust and go under the slave's collar. I think we've managed to discourage most fo these from getting their muzzles in someone else's business.
kaoslace
09-08-2002, 07:10 PM
Enuogh, can't you see that tehre are more important things? My scarf is still gone! We need to find it.
Malice
09-08-2002, 07:51 PM
That is amusing Lurekus. Desperate for extra allies, when I kill your entire clan by myself. No. I don't think so.
Malice the Minotaur
Zelgadis
09-09-2002, 03:51 AM
Lurekus, we don't have to "blacken" your clan's name, you do a perfectly fine job doing it yourself.
Gene Defekt
09-09-2002, 06:50 AM
Dalamar......... Is a Fallen social??!?! HAHAHAA! Boy did you de-evolve. I heard alot of things about you, it's a shame you chose to stoop so low and join a clan that's about to be destroyed...
~Antigone the Zombie.
Lurker
09-09-2002, 04:06 PM
we never made deals with wanderers. And to be honest, your claims begin to irritate me. The only "deal" we can perform for a wanderer, is a possible tolerance of their presence on our lands. And, a very rare event, sometimes we can even build a den for them. If they will pay the price, show themselves as exceptional, and follow the ways of a wanderer set by Grendel precisely.
and Who are you precisely (redric) ? Sign your name.
Gneus, I believe, did attack bunch of minotaurs, but if any of us would've heard it say that it did so for the Fallen, we would be the first to slay it. Which by the way we did, after it called our War Chief a slave. We may give tolerance to some exceptional wanderers, but it's tolerance is thin. Pikachu, that ressurecting little fool? pfft! Dalamar, I have not heard of such wanderer...at all, ever singe the world was young. Watch what you speak wanderer. We do not employ wanderer slaves like Chosen do.
Zelgadis, aye! Our name is the pitch darkest, as it should be! But it is so for a deed, not for a word. We want our name to be pure black, and we will do it ourselves, not with your kind's lies.
Aye, Malice. You are indeed strong in battle. All these days of working in the fields strengthened you greatly. None argue with that. Nonetheless, you seem to be more ready to employ words, and rumours, and baseless accusations, "Heretic,heretic!" do you even know what this truly grave word means?
About the whole White flag issue. Wasnt it you who first offered that possibility? A sort of an arrow with a message possibility? Guess we should've known better then listening to any kind of warfare options from a cow plower. Surrender, is what your fate i probably, as in total and complete drop of arms. We in turn, gave a message, got our answer, and continued on fighting.
Well, this is it. I think i've replied to most of it. This is my last note in this mmm, rather amusing thread to be honest. Whatever I will say, will be twisted, and so it should be. I'm suprised a cow plower can do it, no matter how crudely. After awhile, I realized that your opinions do not really matter, so replying to them is rather time taking. In the end, the victors will be those who remained unchanged, in their ways, rules, loot, and strength...or bigger in all of these. The rest is trivial, and amusing only for a little while.
Malice
09-09-2002, 04:59 PM
I don't expect your tiny decayed brain to understand what colors mean Lurekus. Blue is a truce flag you fool. White is a surrender flag. And begging and pleading with me not to kill you would lead anyone to believe you are weak and unworthy.
Yes I do know the meaning of the word heretic. It is one who claims to be, or be better than a god. You claimed that your rules were in the name of Grendel. Your claims are baseless. Grendel respects the strong. Grendel has no respect for those that use his name to their own advantage as you and your pitiful excuse for a leader have tried to do throughout this war. I know you are not worthy of any more respect than the ugly you are, but you are still a minion of Grendel, and if you claim to be his equal or speak treaties for him, than that makes you worse than any minion in Grendels Chosen.
As for you not using wanderers to your advantage, well..I suppose everytime you post you have to make a truely laughable statement. We have seen how you use wanderers to your advantage. More than any other clan or grumble around. Chosen has wanderer friends, yes. That is because we treat monsters that deserve respect, with respect. The ones that war against you are not forced into it. They enjoy killing you over and over because of the way you try to control their kind, and because of past transgressions. Of course you can't blame anyone for fighting against you. Whenever something so weak claims to be so strong they will attract much fire, as you are seeing. So you die over and over, and the rest of us profit from it. You wage your war with words. Not even respectable words, but petty name calling. Just a testament to the fact that you can not come up with more well thought out statements and arguements. I pity those that follow you and your clan. They all end up dead, or on their knees begging not to die like you and Sedicious.
Malice the Minotaur,
Warlord of Grendels Chosen,
Commander of the Valleys,
Master of the Fane,
CornFed
09-09-2002, 05:52 PM
Quick is the tongue to use the word “Heretic”… when yours is the clan who calls themselves “Grendels Chosen”.
At the close of this war, I believe it would be fitting for you to be removed from your self-proclaimed title as part of your surrender…
I only hope, when it is written for history to read… It states that, Chosen wished this war upon themselves… a war, which demanded honor… a war they lost because they had none…
-Trapper Bain
Malice
09-09-2002, 06:42 PM
Too bad it will actually be written:
"The Fallen, they were once a clan of low life uglies that could not keep their treaties and so they perished."
Malice the Minotaur,
Warlord of Grendels Chosen,
Commander of the Valleys,
Master of the Fane,
Zelgadis
09-11-2002, 03:21 PM
*reads what Lurekus said incredulously*
Are you trying to make a joke? Dalamar was waiting at your lair entrance, when we came to raid. Gruloch knew we were coming, and so did he. So we attacked, Dalamar didnt do anything, and it was a stalemate for about 30 seconds. Then Dalamar turned to Gruloch, and that sack of ugly asswipes nodded to him, telling him to attack.
Liar.
Lurker
09-11-2002, 03:30 PM
in other words, Dalamar asked permission, and Gruloch gave it. What's so strange about that ? It is our lands, it's wise to ask permission. What, you think we attack the wanderers that respect our rules and fight our enemies, only for they fight our enemies? No, we do not. We do not request this..ever. Countless wanderers offered though.
If it'd was different, then both of them would've attacked immediately no? And even then, it's slightly different, for there are few wanderers that chose to fight chosen on themselves, and as long as they obey our rules, we mighttolerate them. Not all though, Gneus is a good example, we do not tolerate it. Accuse us when we come to your lair with Wanderer following in, beast.
Never met this Dalamar creature myself though, stupid name in my opinion.
Barbarosa
09-13-2002, 10:08 AM
Hah, trapper Bain, Lurekus the builder. Merely another example of failure of the Fallen. All can read who Grendel favors as a trapper and a builder and whom he has favored for a very long time. It is I, Barbarosa of the Chosen who Grendel has favored for so long.
When I come to Fallen to destroy your traps why is it you run out like litto ants not to kill our warriors but to kill me. Then you show your stupidness at the event with your who is Barbarosa. Barbarosa is your better you silly pinkie reject.
I have not said much till now and this silly war simply gets in my way as I have more important things to do. However I will come at the call of my warlord to spit on the simple pinkie losers.
I do have a question for the Fallen. What is an undead if not a pinkie who has already lost once to us greater monsters. What is an undead if not a follower of a god who he has already broken his rules by refusing to die as his master commands. How appropriate the name Fallen for such silly losers.
CornFed
09-13-2002, 11:03 AM
Don’t fool yourself, Barbarosa of Chosen. My better you are not… Nor my equal… You may be oblivious to your weaknesses now, however come the close of this war, you will know your true place in our Master’s eyes. It lies not, in how many traps one can set…
*Sneers showing his fangs*
-Trapper Bain
Dissent
09-15-2002, 01:44 PM
This is not a war of honor.
Honor is a pinkie notion. We are monsters. You think you impress Grendel with this "honor"?
Doesn't sound like you're all the way undead yet, deaders. Purge yourself of your pinkie contamination, and perhaps Grendel will reward you with a small amount of skill.
Until then, you are just another hooman. A bit stale, but hooman, nonetheless.
Kagak the Ogre
Redric
09-15-2002, 07:35 PM
Maybe Chosen should catch up on their histroy, "We awoke, and we were. Where our souls had traveled from, what other world saw our birth, we do not know." You Humanoids could not possible understand where and how Undead came to be, only the mind of a Chimera knows such, and would not share them with any else, but their own kind. The only thing Humanoids have going for them, is their in ability to know how stupid they really are.
Malice
09-15-2002, 07:41 PM
Yeah....a savage beast with a brain barely able to comprehend speech knows more...I'd put undead higher than you Redric, but no, not all Chimera.
Malice the Minotaur,
kaoslace
09-15-2002, 07:48 PM
*gasp* what about me?!?!
Malice
09-15-2002, 08:09 PM
I wouldn't help bring your son into the fire if you were. ;)
Malice the Minotaur,
Zelgadis
09-16-2002, 03:02 AM
For once I like the way Redric thinks... well, at least the part that acknowledges us chimera, anyway..*eyeshift*
Bones
09-17-2002, 06:21 AM
That's new...I've never heard Redrick say anything nice about anyone besides Fallen before...sort of creepy...:eek:
Bones
09-17-2002, 06:23 AM
We are not Savages!
:mad:
If I were a whole lot stronger i'd send you to Grendal's embrace.
Malice
09-17-2002, 10:11 AM
Like I said Bones, not all Chimera. I don't generalize on that level, as the Fallen do. This particular one seems to be so though.
Malice the Minotaur,
LadyFungus
09-17-2002, 01:47 PM
I regret that somehow every single dingle comment or observation devolves into chest beating and mud slinging.
Zelgadis, to comment on your observation that started this ball of divergent spew, I'm also a healer...
That was the gift granted to me by Grendel, and so that's what I do... Day to day, or clans may come to conflict, and in those instances, I expect us both to do as our clans dictate, but when Grendel's avatars summon us for His will, I will always act to save any of his children. This policy is mine, and I understand that it's not to be expected anywhere else, but Grendel's children must come together when Grendel has need (or want).
I will always seek to support the leaders and greatest warriors first, as they are favored by grendel, and to have them fall to Ugly steel is loathsome. Then I seek out the healers, as the more of us there are, the more effective we are as a host...
I offer aid and protection to any who seek it when we fight for a cause, and hold no effort back despite past encounters.
I also make it a policy to protect as best I can any monsters that come to the lair to discuss matters great or small, as I believe as ad-hoc hosts, that is our duty. Again, I don't expect the same and understand that when the talking is done, we may be on conflicted sides.
I believe this is what Grendel had in mind for me when choosing the gifts he has granted me, and would hope my actions reflect his will.
And to end what should have been a short personal note, I appreciate your interest in the end to this conflict. I’d never make a good politician, as I simply don’t care to press my view as hard as others do. Hopefully someday the Larger Monsters will learn to resolve matters more carefully, or if not that, at least more quickly. And in the future, I’ll take special care to keep you in flight if I see you endangered… You seem very reasonable for a Wyvren… and we need more reasonable Monsters around. :D
Now, the rest of you can find one of those chest beating conversations (There are plenty and they all say the same thing) if you must rant and rage... but please keep the civil conversations civil.
Bones
09-18-2002, 05:19 AM
You can't be a politician, huh? I think you did a pretty good job of pressing you're point...
[To Malice] did you just call me stupid?
Bones
09-18-2002, 05:19 AM
That's not very nice, if you did...
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