traits

[estrough]

First off I would like to say that the new traits system is awsome. Great work GMs. Now to my question...Will we be able to use the traits system with our old characters? I think that this would be nice because we can add more depth to our characters.

[ScottM]

Originally posted by estrough
First off I would like to say that the new traits system is awsome. Great work GMs. Now to my question...Will we be able to use the traits system with our old characters? I think that this would be nice because we can add more depth to our characters.

Yep, in the next few weeks we'll set something up so that we can retrofit old characters with the new goodies in the the character generator, namely Traits and Flaws and Nationality Abilities.

[Metharus]

This wont affect our current traits will it? Like speed and strength and such? I am pretty happy with my 150/150 hp and good endurance :D

[BBlalock]

How can I get a listing of all the traits and thier effects?

Thanks.

[Celtor]

Hey, I actually went through and wrote out all the traits, their descriptions, and their values...27 positive, 28 negative, and 8 neutral....if you want it, let me know...it's rather lengthy. Best way is to probably send me a private message...not sure, really, cause I haven't tinkered with this system long enough to know what's what.

Anyway....let me know and I'll set you up...someone else posted the nationality bonus traits somewhere else...if you need that too.

Celtor, the "give me a job here please" tec addict

[Govan]

Celtor, email it to me? =)

korayn@witchytree.com

[Shadowfyre]

I'd love to see that list Celtor.

shadows20@hotmail.com

[jsafrase]

Hey Celtor,

Well, I'm glad someone wrote that list out. I bet Scott would like it if you mailed it to him though, and I wager he'd put it into the help files asap, too. At least, I'd certainly hope so.

Love the changes everyone.

Jason/Pontiax

[ScottM]

Japes had posted this message on the internal forums, which aren't visible anymore. Thought I'd repost for him since there've been some questions about it:

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To clarify an issue for those of you complaining that your traits aren't working....

While character generation is complete and fully functional, we are still working on implementing the traits. We've made good progress so far and a large portion of the traits are already working. Its expected that all the traits available in character generation will be operational within a few days.

-- Japes
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[Percivellian]

Hey Scott, thanks for reposting that; it's reassuring. And Celtor - I too would be interested in getting a copy of your list emailed to me. However, I think it'd be even better if you posted it here. Thanks.

[Govan]

Scott - question:

If you pick worldly knowledge, do you get to pick the languages you have learned to speak?

[Celtor]

Rather than send out a multitude of emails...here's the list of traits, broken into smaller parts, since there seems to be a limit on the allowed post length. If you still want me to email the complete document, please send your email addy to me in a private message and I'll get it out to you asap.

Enjoy!
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Positive Traits

1. Night Vision: character receives reduced darkness penalties, and is able to see in all but pitch darkness. Mutually exclusive with ‘Fear of the Dark’ Value: 2

2. Iron Will: Bonus to willpower. Character can stand damage down to –20 HP before falling unconscious. Mutually exclusive with “Frail Sensibility’. Value: 4

3. Nimble Feet: Bonus to speed and agility. Value 3

4. Mule’s Back: Strength is increased when calculating the load a character can carry. Does not affect encumbrance penalties. Value: 2.

5. Steady Hands: Significant bonus to dexterity. Mutually exclusive with ‘Shaky Hands’ Value: 3

6. Athletic: Reduced fatigue drain. Value: 3

7. Presence of Mind: Halves the time a character is stunned for any reason. Value: 2.

8. Natural Understanding: Significant bonus to charm and empathy. Character has improved control over pets and trained animals. Value:4

9. Hunter’s Eye: Doubles the range of ‘scan’. Allows scanning in darkness when combined with ‘Night Vision’. Mutually exclusive with ‘Near-Sighted’. Value: 2

10. Dursc Constitution: Increases HP recovery rate. Mutually exclusive with ‘Weak Constitution’. Value: 4.

11. Mountain Lungs: Increases Fatigue recovery rate. Value: 4

12. Pack Rat: Character can fit more volume into a given sack or container. Value: 2

13. Innate Charm: Bonus to appearance and charm. Mutually exclusive with ‘Introverted’. Value: 3

14. Merchant’s Eye: Character can tell the approximate value of an item with the ‘inspect’ command. Value: 1

15. Iron Gut: Character has increased resistance against poison and disease and improved recovery time. Value: 2.

16. Trader’s Tongue: Bonus to the price of items a character sells to NPC merchants, as well as better prices when buying from NPC shops. Value: 4

17. Luminescent: Character has increased magical potential. Value: 2

18. Focus: Significant bonus to Willpower. Character has improved magical resistance. Value: 4

19. Worldly Knowledge: Significant bonus to Perception. Character begins with two extra languages of his choosing. Value: 4.

20. Vitality: Character has a higher threshold of damage before death occurs. Value: 2.

21. Adrenaline Rush: Character has a bonus to combat when his health runs low. Value: 2

22. Natural Climber: Character has improved climbing ability, as well as reduced damage when falling from a climb. Value: 1.

23. Absolute Time Sense: The Character has the innate ability to tell time. Looking at the sky yeilds more accurate time estimates and the character can guess at the time regardless of whether he or she can see the sky. Value: 1

24. Weather Prediction: The character has an innate sense of what kind of weather will show up in the near future. Looking at the sky will give rudimentary weather predictions. Value: 2

25. Enhanced Hearing: The character has a bonus to perception when detecting whispers, voices, and discreet sounds. Can hear distant sounds (such as yelling) from a longer distance. Value: 2

26. Lucky: This trait can be used in place of a luck point in reviving a deceased character. Usable only once. Value: 1.

27. Self-Taught: Self-training costs 1.5x the normal skill points instead of the usual 2x the normal skill points. Value: 3.

[Celtor]

And here are the negative traits...rather interesting, I think.. :)
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Negative Traits

1. Shaky Hands: Significant penalty to dexterity. Mutually exclusive with ‘Steady Hands’. Value: -2

2. Bleeder: Increased HP loss from bleeding wounds. Value: -1

3. Lack of Concentration: Increased stun time. Character is more vulnerable to magic. Value: -2.

4. Near-Sighted: Reduced scanning range. Penalty to perception. Mutually exclusive with ‘Hunter’s Eye’. Value: -3

5. Provincial Attitude: Major penalty to empathy. Significant penalty to charm. Penalty to reasoning. Mutually exclusive with ‘Worldly Knowledge’ and ‘Natural Understanding’. Value: -3.

6. Jinxed: Enemies have an increased chance of scoring critical hits. Value: -2

7. All Thumbs: Increased frequency of fumbling and critical failures.

8. Frail Build: Penalty to endurance and strength. Value: -2.

9. Aversion to Pain: Increased HP loss due to wounds. Value: -3

10. Aversion to Violence: Character suffers a general combat penalty. Value: -3

11. Uncontrollable Anxiety: Character has a chance of fainting when HP goes below 40. Character has a chance of passing out when HP goes below 20. Value: -1

12. Fear of the Dark: Character has increased darkness penalties and cannot move from his or her location if unable to see. Mutually exclusive with ‘Night Vision’ and ‘Night Owl’ Value: -2

13. Superstitious Fears: Character has a major vulnerability to magic. Character cannot use any items with magical properties, including cadaes. Value: -3

14. Phobia-Arachnids: Character suffers a general combat penalty when fighting spiders and other arachnids. You may only pick one creature phobia. Value: -1

15. Phobia-Snakes: Character suffers a general combat penalty when fighting snakes and serpent-like creatures. You may only pick one creature phobia. Value: -1

16. Phobia-Insects: Character suffers a general combat penalty when fighting insects of any variety. You may only pick one creature phobia. Value: -1

17. Phobia-Bat: Character suffers a general combat penalty when fighting bats or creatures resembling bats. You may only pick one creature phobia. Value: -1

18. Stutterer: Major penalty to charm. Character’s speech pattern is affected. Value: -2.

19. Gullible: Greatly reduces bartering ability with NPC merchants. Mutually exclusive with ‘Trader’s Tongue’. Value: -2

20. Illiterate: Character cannot read or write. Mutually exclusive with ‘Educated’ Value: -3

21. Frail Sensibility: Major penalty to willpower. Mutually exclusive with ‘Iron Will’. Value: -3

22. Weak Constitution: Reduced HP recovery. Penalty to Endurance. Mutually exclusive with ‘Dursc Constitution’ Value: -3

23. Frail Lungs: Reduced fatigue recovery and increased fatigue drain. Mutually exclusive with ‘Mountain Lungs’ Value: -3

24. Introverted: Major penalty to charm. Mutually exclusive with ‘Innate Charm’ Value: -2

25. Squeamish: Chance to faint at the sight of bleeding wounds. Value: -1

26. Weak Stomach: Character more susceptible to poison and nausea. Mutually exclusive with ‘Iron Gut’. Value: -1

27. Sickly: Character more susceptible to disease. Disease symptoms may be amplified, to the point that non-fatal diseases can become deadly. Value: -1

28. Intense Nightmares: Character recovers fatigue at a reduced rate when asleep. Penalty to willpower. Character more susceptible to magic. Value: -3

[Celtor]

These are the most interesting, I think...very well thought out and very exciting...can't wait till everything's fully operational.
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Neutral Traits

1. Hand of Fate: Both you and your opponents have an additional chance of scoring critical hits.

2. Light Sleeper: Reduced roundtime for standing up. Reduced fatigue recovery benefits for sitting or laying down.

3. Night Owl: Increased perception and general bonus during night hours. Reduced perception and general penalty during day hours. Mutually exclusive with ‘Fear of the Dark’.

4. Ox’s Grace: Significant bonus to strength. Penalty to dexterity and speed.

5. Finesse: Significant bonus to dexterity. Improved critical hits. Significant penalty to strength.

6. Berserker: Damage done to the character is increased by 10%. Damage done by the character is increased by 20%. Character cannot willingly assume defensive, wary, or normal stances.

7. Peaceful Spirit: Reduced SP gain for combat skills. Increased SP gain for non-combat skills.

8. Increased Metabolism: Food demand doubled. Increased HP and fatigue recovery when full. No HP or fatigue recovery when even slightly hungry.

[jdyer]

Very interesting...the neutral traits remind me of the traits in Fallout.

Does Weather Prediction work yet? I made a character with it and doing "look sky" doesn't seem to get anything relating to the weather.

[Tayron]

Ooooh, I missed the Pack Rat trait completely, man, that fits my main character perfertly... :)
(and anyone who's seen him knows why. ;))

And the fear traits are interesting, can certainly do something with those, especially as they'll be added to my main character after events that would give him reason to fear it.

On a side note, why not add a fear of Dogs and that like too? (maybe even water) Sure anyone who's been eaten by a hound, wolf, esecarnus would have reason enough for it...

On a side side note, would it be possible to gain positive/negative traits after certain events or something? Maybe after a particularly nasty encounter with a carrion snake your character would develop a fear of them, or if they're extremely active only at night, using little light, for a 'very' long time, may gradually develop better night vision. (of course, at the discretion of a GM, wouldn't be the kinda thing that would be automated)

-Tayron N'Mier

[Bucephalus]

All I have to say, Celtor, is that that list was truly excellent and enlightening. Good job! The only question I have is, how in Ereal's name did you figure that all out...? ;)

[Celtor]

Thanks! :cool: I'm glad everyone can benefit from my hour or so at the keyboard. I just sat and went through the character generator, recreating one of my characters, and typed everything into Word whilst I went through the traits. Not hard at all, just time consuming...it was especially easy considering how quiet it is when you're in the char gen now...none of that WA noise and nonsense like before. What can I say...I'm a loony with too much time on my hands :D Also, it helps that I type rather fast...

-Celtor, the "fingers faster than the speed of light" tec addict

[HuncaMunca]

Thanks a bunch, Celtor, for the lists - you've saved me quite a bit of work. I noticed in my brief look at the character generator that there are nationality-specific traits as well, such as the Cineran "Blade Mastery". Would the GM's, or anyone else, be able to post a description of each of them as well?

Also, just to be greedy, it'd be great to see which nationalities can use the different skills.

[Celtor]

Here's the Nationality traits, thanks to Ember (posted originally in the "New Stuff" thread):

Originally posted by Ember
The Tucheans get an automatic tridents
Iridine gets citizenship
Cinera gets blade mastery
Parcine gets Parcine Battle Cry
Aestivia gets natural builder
Altene gets its usuall skills
Remath gets Iridine, Cinera, and 1 extra language to start with
Safelands get Outdoor basics and Aversion to Violence
Gadaen gets Unpredictablility and Smooth Tounge
Sostarean gets Disciplined Mind and Anonomity
Windward gets Language and Metal Afinity

I didnt see what the self picked bonus traits/skills were, and Altenes only start with level 1 staves instead of 5 block, 5 jab, and 5 basic.

Ember


Hope this was what you wanted :)

[Bartimus]

Try 'weather'

[Cauzway]

Okay is wordly knowledge the ONLY way to learn another language? Shouldn't there be some way of learning each individual langauge. It would be an excellent skill set to develop.

[Rune]

ROFLOL, Tayron.

What do you mean, 'seen my character'?
*Can* he be seen? The alst time I checked, I was waving to a undulating mass of thief fearing pouches. ;-)

[mssnhead]

When you say 'Mutually Exclusive', what does that mean? Does that mean if you get two opposite traits, they both cancel out?

Mike

[Annatar]

It means you can't have one, if you have the other, because they would cancel each other out.

[Wolfie]

Im going to make some characters and see how the traits affect them so i know what it will do to my main character. also anyone know when we are going to have our characters updated?

[Decimator]

Darn it anyhow. I just spent forever today getting both the traits and flaws information and the nationality information. I wish I'd read this thread first.

By the way, Celtor, you missed the Educated trait. It's understandable. I missed Iron Will the first time through. It seems that the system sometimes doesn't give you all 28 Positive traits sometimes. Here's the Educated information for those who care:

Educated (+4)
-gives a significant bonus to reasoning and judgment

They still misspell judgment. I get a kick every time I see it. :D

I'd better stop rambling now.

-Decimator
who can, by the way, type at 70 wpm

[Celtor]

I did miss educated...because that was the bonus trait that I picked, so it didn't show up in the positive traits list...thanks for catching that, I'll add it to my master list.

*goes to edit the list above*

*discovers that it's been too long since she posted that list...and so she can't edit it*

Oh well....hope people see these other posts. :D

[mssnhead]

Lets bring this back to the top 8)

[Lasseter]

Bump

[Celtor]

*bump*

[Roxanna]

little bump