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The cloud server that hosts the main Skotos web site and the forums experienced a hardware failure on Saturday morning that unfortunately led to severe database corruption. Several attempts to restore it failed.

This led us to our backups, but the timing was a bit unfortunate. Since the failure occurred on a weekend morning, we didn't see it until after a new backup occurred, which contained the corrupted data, and which removed our previous daily backup. This forced us to our weekly backup, which was unfortunately at the end of its time: six days old.

So, the forums are back, but we had a six-day reversion.

This should not have affects on the rest of the site, since the majority of our data is saved in our main-user-database or our games, all on remote machines.
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Forums REversion

The cloud server that hosts the main Skotos web site and the forums experienced a hardware failure on Saturday morning that unfortunately led to severe database corruption. Several attempts to restore it failed.

This led us to our backups, but the timing was a bit unfortunate. Since the failure occurred on a weekend morning, we didn't see it until after a new backup occurred, which contained the corrupted data, and which removed our previous daily backup. This forced us to our weekly backup, which was unfortunately at the end of its time: six days old.

So, the forums are back, but we had a six-day reversion.

This should not have affects on the rest of the site, since the majority of our data is saved in our main-user-database or our games, all on remote machines.
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Forums REversion

The cloud server that hosts the main Skotos web site and the forums experienced a hardware failure on Saturday morning that unfortunately led to severe database corruption. Several attempts to restore it failed.

This led us to our backups, but the timing was a bit unfortunate. Since the failure occurred on a weekend morning, we didn't see it until after a new backup occurred, which contained the corrupted data, and which removed our previous daily backup. This forced us to our weekly backup, which was unfortunately at the end of its time: six days old.

So, the forums are back, but we had a six-day reversion.

This should not have affects on the rest of the site, since the majority of our data is saved in our main-user-database or our games, all on remote machines.
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Forums REversion

The cloud server that hosts the main Skotos web site and the forums experienced a hardware failure on Saturday morning that unfortunately led to severe database corruption. Several attempts to restore it failed.

This led us to our backups, but the timing was a bit unfortunate. Since the failure occurred on a weekend morning, we didn't see it until after a new backup occurred, which contained the corrupted data, and which removed our previous daily backup. This forced us to our weekly backup, which was unfortunately at the end of its time: six days old.

So, the forums are back, but we had a six-day reversion.

This should not have affects on the rest of the site, since the majority of our data is saved in our main-user-database or our games, all on remote machines.
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Forums REversion

The cloud server that hosts the main Skotos web site and the forums experienced a hardware failure on Saturday morning that unfortunately led to severe database corruption. Several attempts to restore it failed.

This led us to our backups, but the timing was a bit unfortunate. Since the failure occurred on a weekend morning, we didn't see it until after a new backup occurred, which contained the corrupted data, and which removed our previous daily backup. This forced us to our weekly backup, which was unfortunately at the end of its time: six days old.

So, the forums are back, but we had a six-day reversion.

This should not have affects on the rest of the site, since the majority of our data is saved in our main-user-database or our games, all on remote machines.
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  • John
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    A few notes here. First off the sniping that you two are doing might count as harrassment. Not saying you all might not have a beef, but just giving you a heads up. You all might want to go back to the SG thats running the problems between you two and see what they have to say on whats going on.
    Second, people lie in the OOC all the time. Day in and day out, they also crossover ooc and IC as well. I personly would have problems counting more than 4-5 people who have never done the IC/OOC thing, and not fessed up about it in the forums.
    3rd ly the craft groups have more than a few IG and OOC problems, in part becouse of the way the crafts work (including the "plain" matter and the speed of the making of items.) And in part becouse they dont have to obey a lot of IG rules, becouse they are not guilds, but groups with VP support, making each craft group something of a diffrent problem from the other craft groups (yes I know I have said this before)

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  • Lance
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    I like how you live my life and know everything about what I do with my character.

    While doing my operation for business, I had people send me request... those people got what they requested. Not anything plain.

    Also, if I recall properly, which I do, all the plain items I did have at one point and time got were given up OOC to an SG cause you cried so hard and long about the issue. If you wanna call me a liar on that too, please do so, for you were there and I'm sure the SG can testify that they were giving up. And even then you still weren't happy cause the items weren't given directly to you, but put in some OOC storage area until someone could determine what to properly do with them.

    How's that for some truth? So please... stop your crying and whining... this issue is old, it's been dealt with. Sorry you don't like the finaly outcome, but not everyone gets their cake and eats it too.


    I'd like to 'call you a liar' on that... because I was, in fact, not there at a time where you openly and honestly handed all your things over. And while you made some mention of turning things over, I have no idea if it ever happened save on your word alone. Maybe you did, maybe you handed over a little, maybe you are telling the truth about that event. And, as evidenced recently by you making false statements followed by intentional insults, you are taking what I had hoped to be a serious and well-intentioned complaint and making it nothing but an opportunity to continue annoying me.


    Regardless, this insult-filled rant is not relevent. My point still stands. Stop claiming things on an OOC board that are not true. That's misleading, to say the least.

    I'm really trying to be polite, here. It's a fair request.

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  • Lance
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    Isn't asking the player base to be honest (and expecting it) a better solution that bothering the SC's?

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  • Stellar
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    Originally posted by Lance
    Could we be honest on an OOC board? Please? I mean, sure, if you have a conflicting opinion than me even if it is neither a justifiable one nor particularly respectable one, that's fine and dandy.


    But outright lies? You should not do that.
    I like how you live my life and know everything about what I do with my character.

    While doing my operation for business, I had people send me request... those people got what they requested. Not anything plain.

    Also, if I recall properly, which I do, all the plain items I did have at one point and time got were given up OOC to an SG cause you cried so hard and long about the issue. If you wanna call me a liar on that too, please do so, for you were there and I'm sure the SG can testify that they were giving up. And even then you still weren't happy cause the items weren't given directly to you, but put in some OOC storage area until someone could determine what to properly do with them.

    How's that for some truth? So please... stop your crying and whining... this issue is old, it's been dealt with. Sorry you don't like the finaly outcome, but not everyone gets their cake and eats it too.

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  • Stellar
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    See, this is why I suggested this idea:

    Nothing should be 'plain'... garments should be 'cloth' before they are altered.... furniture should be 'wood' before it is altered. The armory has this for weapons. There are no 'plain swords' they are 'METAL swords'.... this should be done with the furnture and garments as well. CLOTH pants, CLOTH long-sleeved shirt.... WOOD wardrobe, WOOD bookshelf. The same should go with jewelery as well.

    Now, if only we can get this placed IG, then I feel alot of problems would be solved in these OOC arguements.

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  • Lance
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    Stellar lied...

    But I will state that everything I have left and everything I handed out was turned into something. I have nothing plain left

    Could we be honest on an OOC board? Please? I mean, sure, if you have a conflicting opinion than me even if it is neither a justifiable one nor particularly respectable one, that's fine and dandy.


    But outright lies? You should not do that.

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  • Lance
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    Stellar babbled...

    Sound's reasonable/logical enough for me


    ...to which I reply OF COURSE it's reasonable and logical to you when you have 30+ things going to you. To anybody who understands what 'wood' is (it's the thing that grows from the ground in trees), it would be plainly obvious why a stiletto is not 'creative' but is, in fact, a stupid rationalization. Have you ever touched wood? Cut wood? Have you ever handled a weapon with a blade of any sort? Go ahead and try to cut a tree or timber with a blade that's the size of a steak knife. Frankly, I can't believe you can say that without blushing.



    To Cyrius: any 'harassment' you received was based on *IC* things. I don't think you're cheating, abusing bugs, or sending me countless pages for the sole purpose of annoying me. OOC, unless someone can prove me wrong, I'll continue thinking highly of you.

    However, about paranoia... how would YOU feel if someone poofed up 100 fairly rare items (of whatever craft you like) altered them in six minutes, and distributed them freely? Or better yet, kept all of their ill-gotten goods.

    All I'm asking for is people to ...

    1) not cheat.
    2) not harass me.

    Is that asking too much? No? I didn't think so. Let me add one more personal request.

    3) stop saying obvious lies that nobody but a four year old would believe.

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  • Cyrius
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    He's correctly rolepalying how long it would take to create such masterpieces?

    Yah. If I pump out twenty wardrobes in two minutes because I can type real fast, it's kind of silly. But Janwin using a stiletto to help make some furniture is nothing if not creative.

    Sure, it's a different craft. But it's still the same basic system that every other skill has. There's nothing different from the hairstylist who can cut without scissors and the carpenter who can chop some wood without an axe. Not in my opinion, at least.

    And yes, it is whining. And random. As someone who hasn't had an inch of involvement in carpentry, and has had to deal with being accused of OOCly cheating to make a few lines of text called a wardrobe, I feel pretty safe in saying that.

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  • John
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    Mayhap there should be "plain" things allowed for other crafts like smithing/carpentry/jewlrymaking. Or if you want to go the restricted route no plain anythings. Remove all the plain clothing from game, and make all "plain" Things ooc.
    As it stands it is a little odd that some "plain" things are easyer to get than others.

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  • Dolph
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    Nor do many seamstresses, Cyrius. I'm a student tailor, Sen.Ap dyers and tailoring.

    This is about the carpentry. It's an ENTIRELY different craft. They actually have pieces and tools for their trade. We have tools, but only for the higher skilled.

    The whining as you put it is valid in some points, because he is constantly getting badgered for things that his character can't help. He's correctly rolepalying how long it would take to create such masterpieces.

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  • Cyrius
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    My character can dye novice colors. I don't RP him running up to some stock room before dying a newly a pair of brown pants. Kind of unrealistic to have a large selection of dyes and fabrics stuffed in his pouch, too. Maybe it's a mistake on my part to have him make clothes then - to me it sounds pretty much like the carpenter's wood arguement.

    The endless carpentry paranoia and whining is annoying. Especially the rather random OOC accusations.

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  • Dolph
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    That wasn't the discussion. We're talking about the BASIC materials. Seamstress and Tailor materials - plain longjohns in this case - are readily available. Tailoring stuff like Cotton or Burlap is done by skills which would be the game's way of showing they have access IC'ly to the materials now. If they do it through a rogue way, they "stole" the materials. Since plain garments are so easily gotten though, that's why it isn't as highly complained. Still, rogue tailors/seamstresses are highly frowned apon.

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  • Cyrius
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    Seamstress dyes and materials don't just appear out of thin air either, but there never seem to be people complaining that Joe the Rogue Tailor is 'magically' making burlap longjohns.

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  • Stellar
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    Originally posted by Lance
    When asked, it turns out that he used the 'butt' of the stiletto as a hammer and the sharp edge as an axe to cut through timber.
    Sound's reasonable/logical enough for me.

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  • Lance
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    From what I was told, the book that was stolen or whatever that caused the orginal problem, was take and destroyed. I never saw or personally owned the book, so I don't know for sure. But I will state that everything I have left and everything I handed out was turned into something. I have nothing plain left.


    Yeah, but the problem, as you so elegantly teased me about previously, was that you had 30 'plain items' that were 'converted' to furniture. I won't mention how it was lugged from one place to another without being noticed. Most people I tried to talk to ignored me, refused to tell the truth, or made fun of me when I asked. However, Janwin gave vague answers before he finally admited that he 'made' carpentry furniture (in record time) for people using 'a stiletto'.

    How, you ask?

    When asked, it turns out that he used the 'butt' of the stiletto as a hammer and the sharp edge as an axe to cut through timber.



    I just want a few other crafter players out there to stop and think about the implications of statements like these. It would be like a rogue jeweler saying to Hannah "Oh, I traded some skills OOCly, then made some necklaces and anklets from some plain jewelry that someone poofed up for me. I used my fingernails and a sharp fork to engrave the jewelry, then used my teeth and thousands of pounds of pressure to create a diamond out of coal. Don't bother me about how I play my character IC'ly."

    Forgive me for being less than impressed.

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