The Great Skotos Split Is Here [UPDATED]

The long-planned Skotos split is here. We are going to be separating Skotos into the four games that we're passing off to individual players (Marrach, TEC, the game formerly known as Ironclaw Online, the game formerly known as Lazarus Sleeping), and in the near future the core Skotos site will shutdown.

Here's how it will work:
* On Monday, we will turn off the ability to make any purchases through the main site. This will be the end of credit card purchases for Skotos games.
* We will run final automated credit card purchases on Tuesday morning. This is typical, in that our regular subscriptions are always set to run on the 1st through the 28th.
* On Wednesday, we will begin converting the games over to the new auth server that I've been working on for the last month and a half. All data will be converted over from the moment I grab the database. This means that all of your account information, including all payments (but not including any credit card information or Paypal information) will be duped to all the games: you'll be able to play any of them for the time you'd previously paid at the main Skotos site.
* We'll then start integrating the individual sites for each game with the new stand-alone setup.
* And likely I'll be resolving bugs in the auth server that only turn up through extensive usage.
* Meanwhile, we'll start handing off games to the individuals who will be running it in the future. I'm at this point over the time I'd initially committed to Skotos by a bit more than three weeks, but I'm expecting I'll need to offer support a little into May to make sure everyone is running well and that I've helped Christopher, Skotos, and the game leads deal with any intricacies of the hand-off.
* We'll request that all games remove all information from users who didn't stick with their game within a year.

I hope this will go as smoothly as possible. There will surely be bumps in the road. In particular, expect some random downtimes on Wednesday, when I convert over the games to the new servers, and expect the potential for problems on *next* Thursday, when I see how things work in the new setup.

A Few Updates as of 5/3:

1.) Castle Marrach, TEC, and Allegory of Empires are now split out from the main Skotos UserDB, which is the first (and biggest) step in separating these games. Multiversal Revelations will follow on Monday.

2.) Each site has a new login page of the form login.itsdomainname. This is the proper place to login to that game, and where you should access all UserDB functionality. Anything you do on the main Skotos users pages will no longer be reflected. Yes, that means you should be using the new pages to update your accounts, purchase months of play, and purchase subscriptions. Credit card payments are no longer possible, but Paypal is.

3.) Skotos is still running the games as of this moment, but they'll be transferred to the individual teams by this time next month.

4.) We've had some problems with credit cards continuing to run on the older UserDB system. We've refunded any bills that went through on the main system following the split, and apologize for the inconvenience. The plan is to turn the old UserDB off tomorrow, so that will absolutely stop the bills at this point. If you were accidentally billed, do note both that the amount was refunded the same day AND it isn't reflected on the new systems. [And as of Monday morning, those old charges seem to have been halted entirely.]

5.) We've discovered that about 20 accounts have credits of various amounts of them. This is a concept that is no longer supported in any meaningful way on the new UserDB, so we'll convert those credits to days of play at the most generous ratio.
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    Please do not bump posts unless you have something new to add to them or there is a specific reason why they need to be brought to the top.

    Also, please do not bump posts the day after you post them unless you have a good reason.

    All this does is create more useless posts in the db which in turn creates more slowdown for those of us trying to read the legit posts. It also clogs up the top of the forum with posts that have no new information. And finally, it spams the 'New Post List' that many of us use.

    So, if there is a reason then bump it but if its just because you want people to read your post on the spot please dont. If, in three or four days, no one has read your post and you want to bump it, then do it but only do it once, not repeatedly.

    Most of us read the posts but do not respond to them and hate opening a post only to find that the one message is 'bump'.

    Many thanks and happy gaming!
    -- StoryCoder Aziel

  • #2
    for important posts that continue to have relavance (like the great chain of being) maybe there should be a location for these posts to be readily avalible to the whole of the universe...
    well... im babling.
    If I wana bump a post I make a disfigured drawing on it. that way anyone reading will at least get a chuckle.

    Keep in touch, PM me with yahoo messneger. My ID is Fizgot. (and tell me who you are in CM so that I can know who Im talking to)


    • #3
      I agree... Mabe Aziel can have a project to make the REALLY important IC posts, like the chain of being, a chronicler post (includes all chronicles by all chroniclers), and the big 'worries' of the castle at the time, actually have a paper hung onto the north wall of the lecture hall and actually read it ICly.

      I've got no suggestion for the OOC posts to not be bumped, though it aggrivates me as well, when I jump on before work to just read the posts, there 30 red folders, and over 20 of them are useless *bumps*, waste of time.
      To conquer without risk, is to succeed without glory


      • #4

        Sorry, couldn't resist.

        Seriously, there are things which are helpful to have access to. The great chain, Capitulary, Precepts of the Faith. Though what we need are more in game ways to access those. I know I was chatting with one of the SPs and they had a copy of the Chain written in a book so they could access it without printing up a copy (most obvious and one of the best ways), or searching the forums for the post.

        I would think things like the posts about events, meeting and such should at least be considered that they will be bumped the day of the meeting or event. Though I agree that it is best to add information, or a real post beyond the whole [bump] thingie.

        Idly Mused by Ra'


        • #5
          Originally posted by Ra'Dorcha

          Seriously, there are things which are helpful to have access to. The great chain, Capitulary, Precepts of the Faith.

          Maybe if SP's/SC's or whoever, deem a post important enough they can make it a stiky post so that they are always there to be read, or maybe a single sticky post called something like "[B] Important information [\B]" can be made with links to said information within it thus cutting down on space used in forums (if it was done like the whispered rumors post, ie and OOC message saying do not respond and and address to post to if you want something added to the list, it would avoid it geting spamed)

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          Today is a good day for Pie


          • #6
            I think this is a worthy post to bump seeing as there have been a good number of useless bumps lately
            Equerry to Lady Hieronyma
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            • #7
              quite ironic that you should bump the post that says 'please dont bump'

              Keep in touch, PM me with yahoo messneger. My ID is Fizgot. (and tell me who you are in CM so that I can know who Im talking to)


              • #8
                -ironically bumps again-


                • #9
                  Ironic? Naah, I was looking for this post a few nights ago but could not find it. Thanks! I certainly think this has once again become handy.
                  Equerry to Lady Hieronyma
                  Adjunct-Prosecutor (Acting)
                  Master Jeweler


                  • #10
                    I suppose all this bumping reminds me of "The Boy who cried wolf" except in this case, it's 'The Poster who cried Bump."

                    I think this thread needs a kick up to the top so the bump-happy people on the IC forum can tone it down a bit. For example (And I am sorry to point fingers at people who happen to be my friends), the Carpentry threads make me want to claw you to death.

                    Maybe if they drop to the next page, you can move them up. But frankly, every time I read a carpentry thread, I just see bump, bump, tacked to the top, bump, bump.

                    I don't read them anymore. For all I know, there's something important in there regarding one of my characters, Sorcha's character, or Kumaro's character - two players who can rarely get IG right now that I've been taking care of.

                    I'm moving this up also because I think Aziel's original message needs to be seen again. The Carpenters aren't the only crazy-bumping-psychos out there.

                    My apologies to Eleren and Janwin's players, because you guys got targetted. However, you're a classic example of over-bump, IMO.



                    • #11
                      dude, i quite agree..the recent fascination with the ic board and carpentry was a bit much. i personally think carpentry is about the most useless craft period in marrach, I think we existed fine without it in the past, and i think we would be just fine if it was wiped out of the game.


                      • #12
                        Um, Brit? Your comment has almost nothing to do with mine.

                        I have no problem with Carpentry IC. I think it is a useful part of the Castle life we have going on here. My problem is with the bumping of posts. Recently, I'd feel safe proposing that 50% of the stuff on the IC forum consists of 'bump' or 'tacked to the front' or 'Moved to a prominent location'.

                        It's TOO much.

                        Go Carpentry. It's nice to see that it isn't wallowing any longer. Just less bumping=happy me.


                        • #13
                          *pokes Briseis* Find me one example where I have 'bumped' the Carpentry threads. I added a post about new guidelines to come and then defended those guidelines from someone who seemed to have problems with them. *grin* I'm as annoyed as all of you when it comes to them getting bumped. I hate going through the list of red folders, opening some posts that might be important, and finding 'helpfully re-posted at the top'. Sometimes I want to put on 'torn down and is now laying on the floor'. ;0)



                          • #14
                            Oh, look! I go to read a thread...and...


                            DIE. These threads have been bumped every day, second day, third day, OR more than once in one day. DIE, I say.

                   (This one was bumped twice in one day!)

                            I don't know about you, but bumpers should be slain. I HATE reading a post where there is one actual informative post...and 5+ bumps. What is the bloody use?


                            • #15
                              If she's bumping posts to bury another, I thought this (even if in doing it I reveal my own contradiction) might be of some use!

                              -Head of Houseold/Valet to Lord Vestio
                              -Courtier of Her Majesty's Royal Court