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The Great Skotos Split Is Here [UPDATED]

The long-planned Skotos split is here. We are going to be separating Skotos into the four games that we're passing off to individual players (Marrach, TEC, the game formerly known as Ironclaw Online, the game formerly known as Lazarus Sleeping), and in the near future the core Skotos site will shutdown.

Here's how it will work:
* On Monday, we will turn off the ability to make any purchases through the main site. This will be the end of credit card purchases for Skotos games.
* We will run final automated credit card purchases on Tuesday morning. This is typical, in that our regular subscriptions are always set to run on the 1st through the 28th.
* On Wednesday, we will begin converting the games over to the new auth server that I've been working on for the last month and a half. All data will be converted over from the moment I grab the database. This means that all of your account information, including all payments (but not including any credit card information or Paypal information) will be duped to all the games: you'll be able to play any of them for the time you'd previously paid at the main Skotos site.
* We'll then start integrating the individual sites for each game with the new stand-alone setup.
* And likely I'll be resolving bugs in the auth server that only turn up through extensive usage.
* Meanwhile, we'll start handing off games to the individuals who will be running it in the future. I'm at this point over the time I'd initially committed to Skotos by a bit more than three weeks, but I'm expecting I'll need to offer support a little into May to make sure everyone is running well and that I've helped Christopher, Skotos, and the game leads deal with any intricacies of the hand-off.
* We'll request that all games remove all information from users who didn't stick with their game within a year.

I hope this will go as smoothly as possible. There will surely be bumps in the road. In particular, expect some random downtimes on Wednesday, when I convert over the games to the new servers, and expect the potential for problems on *next* Thursday, when I see how things work in the new setup.

A Few Updates as of 5/3:

1.) Castle Marrach, TEC, and Allegory of Empires are now split out from the main Skotos UserDB, which is the first (and biggest) step in separating these games. Multiversal Revelations will follow on Monday.

2.) Each site has a new login page of the form login.itsdomainname. This is the proper place to login to that game, and where you should access all UserDB functionality. Anything you do on the main Skotos users pages will no longer be reflected. Yes, that means you should be using the new pages to update your accounts, purchase months of play, and purchase subscriptions. Credit card payments are no longer possible, but Paypal is.

3.) Skotos is still running the games as of this moment, but they'll be transferred to the individual teams by this time next month.

4.) We've had some problems with credit cards continuing to run on the older UserDB system. We've refunded any bills that went through on the main system following the split, and apologize for the inconvenience. The plan is to turn the old UserDB off tomorrow, so that will absolutely stop the bills at this point. If you were accidentally billed, do note both that the amount was refunded the same day AND it isn't reflected on the new systems. [And as of Monday morning, those old charges seem to have been halted entirely.]

5.) We've discovered that about 20 accounts have credits of various amounts of them. This is a concept that is no longer supported in any meaningful way on the new UserDB, so we'll convert those credits to days of play at the most generous ratio.
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  • #31
    Man, talking about forum nazis, saying "Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation" twice in a post is worth 2 points - the same as I've gotten for plain insulting other players. "Inappropriate Language."

    Now that makes me want to not have anything to do with these forums.
    Last edited by SG Dathan; 11-14-2007, 07:18 AM.
    Priam: You know what's a bad idea?
    Kyramor: Not usually

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Priam View Post
      Man, talking about forum nazis, saying "Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation" twice in a post is worth 2 points - the same as I've gotten for plain insulting other players. "Inappropriate Language."

      Now that makes me want to not have anything to do with these forums.

      Keep mind it is becouse everyone can see/understand a swear. A lot of insults just slide by entierly since staff may not see them as insults. But they made it clear swearing is seen as more of a no no by them. (No matter how silly the weight may seem)
      Last edited by SG Dathan; 11-14-2007, 07:18 AM.

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      • #33
        Man, that gets downright psychedelic. Is it okay to say "One of my 5 forum accounts is disabled from posting until Dec 23rd because I posted the f-word again" ?

        I still want to know where we have the Big List of Words You Can Not Use. And nobody tell me it's common sense, because that's Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation.

        Is that word on the list? Is Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation? Is crap? Is damn? Is dang? Is hell? Is heck?

        I. Want. A. List.
        > You sneer briefly, "Personality. Oh, yes, you are all as unique as snowflakes, and exactly as interesting. You fall and you melt. No one cares or notices when you are gone."

        Queen Vivienne smiles supportively at you, "It appears you stun Our household into silence."

        Nallia sees your face horrifiedly.

        Vestio's Player: "You go, Skeletor! :P"

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        • #34
          Well, now I know two words that aren't allowed, but I can't tell any of you! Isn't that COOL? We can all see five that are, though, so make the most of them.
          > You sneer briefly, "Personality. Oh, yes, you are all as unique as snowflakes, and exactly as interesting. You fall and you melt. No one cares or notices when you are gone."

          Queen Vivienne smiles supportively at you, "It appears you stun Our household into silence."

          Nallia sees your face horrifiedly.

          Vestio's Player: "You go, Skeletor! :P"

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          • #35
            Do people really have nothing better to do than blab their mouths on this dumb thread? In case you didn't realize, this is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship(no reference to Nazis intended). By signing up for the forums/game, you give staff the right to do whatever the hell they want. You as players DO NOT own this game or these forums, you participate in them. It's just like if you go into a water park and wave your ding dong around, they can kick you out or the cops can drag you out. Same goes for yelling the f-word in a crowded restaurant. Get over it, or leave.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Uwaine View Post
              Man, that gets downright psychedelic. Is it okay to say "One of my 5 forum accounts is disabled from posting until Dec 23rd because I posted the f-word again" ?

              I still want to know where we have the Big List of Words You Can Not Use. And nobody tell me it's common sense, because that's Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation.

              Is that word on the list? Is Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation? Is crap? Is damn? Is dang? Is hell? Is heck?

              I. Want. A. List.

              This is probably the most hilarious post I've ever seen on the Skotos forums. Really.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Uwaine View Post
                Man, that gets downright psychedelic. Is it okay to say "One of my 5 forum accounts is disabled from posting until Dec 23rd because I posted the f-word again" ?

                I still want to know where we have the Big List of Words You Can Not Use. And nobody tell me it's common sense, because that's Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation.

                Is that word on the list? Is Edited by Forum Moderator. TOS Violation? Is crap? Is damn? Is dang? Is hell? Is heck?

                I. Want. A. List.
                So how many points was that to get you disabled?

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                • #38
                  I went from 3 to 5, so the limit is either 4 or 5.
                  > You sneer briefly, "Personality. Oh, yes, you are all as unique as snowflakes, and exactly as interesting. You fall and you melt. No one cares or notices when you are gone."

                  Queen Vivienne smiles supportively at you, "It appears you stun Our household into silence."

                  Nallia sees your face horrifiedly.

                  Vestio's Player: "You go, Skeletor! :P"

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                  • #39
                    Banning forum names seems pointless, when you can always just make five more.
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                    Crossbows were good and fine, but nowadays, a gun is better - and if a gun is good, then an automated self-aiming gyro-mounted gun turret with a cyclic grenade feeder and napalm cannister is even better yet!

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                    • #40
                      How about we censor five feet tall signatures?


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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by neitz View Post
                        Though consideration and an open ear to someone who does find something offensive , even if you dont agree or cant percieve things in the same light as them , may well be educational for both parties.

                        I just want to reiterate this point.
                        Natasha Danaher
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                        • #42
                          I do not generally reply to post like this as it is just senseless to. Meaning I know after I post this I will be torn apart for my opinion. But never the less this needs to be said.

                          So far all I have seen is STAFF doing this and STAFF doing that to players. HELLO, in case anyone has forgotten STAFF are players too and paying customers as much as any of you on here!!! What they do they do not get PAID to do! The up hold the rules some which are THE LAW and some which are designed to protect everyone...not just to make your life miserable. Part of being part of a community is having regard to others feelings. You just because you think it is alright to come on and insult someone does not make it right. Even if you are right about what you post does not mean that how you said it or how you made it know was right. So stop and think before you post. There are rules here. Rules you agreed too upon joining Skotos. If you feel those rules are wrong...hay no one is stopping you go post somewhere else then and let it out. But spare the rest of us.

                          Insulting staff is not going to make it any better either. I am sorry but STAFF works DAMN hard to make the game more enjoyable. Sometimes it is hard to make everyone happy. Not everyone is going to be overjoyed by ever aspect of the game. But then that is their opinion. An opinion that can be stated here in a grown-up manner without cuss words and insults. Or if you are that mad then step back..calm down ...think and then write. Or file an assist. Plain and simple. But there has to be few out there that have to turn a game into a political affair!!! GET OVER IT!! And then move on.
                          Finna Moon, Courtier to Her Majesty's Court




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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Shadust View Post
                            How about we censor five feet tall signatures?
                            I just want to reiterate this point.
                            > You sneer briefly, "Personality. Oh, yes, you are all as unique as snowflakes, and exactly as interesting. You fall and you melt. No one cares or notices when you are gone."

                            Queen Vivienne smiles supportively at you, "It appears you stun Our household into silence."

                            Nallia sees your face horrifiedly.

                            Vestio's Player: "You go, Skeletor! :P"

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Finna View Post
                              I do not generally reply to post like this as it is just senseless to. Meaning I know after I post this I will be torn apart for my opinion. But never the less this needs to be said.

                              So far all I have seen is STAFF doing this and STAFF doing that to players. HELLO, in case anyone has forgotten STAFF are players too and paying customers as much as any of you on here!!! What they do they do not get PAID to do! The up hold the rules some which are THE LAW and some which are designed to protect everyone...not just to make your life miserable. Part of being part of a community is having regard to others feelings. You just because you think it is alright to come on and insult someone does not make it right. Even if you are right about what you post does not mean that how you said it or how you made it know was right. So stop and think before you post. There are rules here. Rules you agreed too upon joining Skotos. If you feel those rules are wrong...hay no one is stopping you go post somewhere else then and let it out. But spare the rest of us.

                              Insulting staff is not going to make it any better either. I am sorry but STAFF works DAMN hard to make the game more enjoyable. Sometimes it is hard to make everyone happy. Not everyone is going to be overjoyed by ever aspect of the game. But then that is their opinion. An opinion that can be stated here in a grown-up manner without cuss words and insults. Or if you are that mad then step back..calm down ...think and then write. Or file an assist. Plain and simple. But there has to be few out there that have to turn a game into a political affair!!! GET OVER IT!! And then move on.
                              You know who else did a lot of good things for the place he administered, despite doing some terrible things?

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                              • #45
                                The fact that staff are also paying players puts them in a far more attractive position to abuse that power. A few have done so, and there is little motivation for them not too. The fact that they are still playing, and at the same time have staff powers to spy on other characters and "know" things that the rest of us don't is dangerous. Dangerous for them, because accusations and gossip can be very damaging to their credibilty for the other players, and dangerous for us, because we all know at least one who has abused those powers for the gain of their own character(s) and their friends.

                                I stand by the fact that Staff should be held to a higher standard then the rest of the players. That is what they signed up for. There wasn't a draft. This is a voluntary position.

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