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ZEALOTRY Users: Critical Notice on Continued Use

Edit: Our new HTML5 client (Orchil) is now open for beta testing in The Eternal City and Grendel's Revenge. Feel free to try give it a whirl at http://test.skotos.net/orchil/

Edit: We have made great strides toward a new HTML5 client, which should offer a replacement to Zealotry. We're hoping to release that in the very near future, but in the meantime, using Pale Moon remains the best method for ensuring there is zero interruption to your game playing during the transition.

As of November 14, Mozilla will be auto-updating all copies of Mozilla Firefox to Mozilla 57, a new edition of their browser that will disable all legacy add-ons. This will probably include the majority of the plug-ins that you use on Mozilla, including the Skotos Zealotry plug-in.

This is a big problem for us because Zealotry is the most stable of our clients at this time, and the one that we believe is in the widest use. There's unfortunately no easy way to update it, because we'd have to rewrite it from practically scratch, using their new programming system.

There are tricks that you could use to to prevent Mozilla updates, but we don't particularly suggest them, as you want to have a clean, secure browser. Fortunately, there are two alternative browsers that will support Zealotry. Each of them branched off of an earlier version of Mozilla Firefox, and each of them continues to be updated for important security issues.

Pale Moon Browser

The Pale Moon browser is our suggested replacement. It is a totally separate browser that branched off of Firefox some years ago. It will continue to support the classic plug-ins.

To install it:
  • Install Pale Moon (Windows & UNIX only)
  • Install the Zealotry XPI on Pale Moon
  • Restart the Pale Moon Browser
  • Play on Pale Moon

The official version of Pale Moon only supports Windows and UNIX, but you can also get a slightly less official version of Pale Moon for the Mac. We've tested it out and it looks like it's clean and works correctly, but use your own level of caution in working with the Mac variant.

If You Have Errors

Some users are experiencing "Content Encoding Errors" when using Pale Moon and Zealotry. As best we can tell, this is due to an incompatibility between Windows 8.1, Pale Moon, and Plugins. If you have this problem (or any other), we suggest instead using Mozilla's extended-release version of Firefox, which branched at Firefox 52. It's expected to remain supported until at least June 28, 2018, by which time Mozilla is planning to jump their ESR to a post-plugin phase. This is therefore a short-term solution, but we expect to have full release of our New HTML5 client well before that.

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The Big Picture

Our larger-scale goal is to introduce a new client that will be usable on any browser and make our games generally more accessible. We've had a HTML5 client in process since last year, but are currently hitting roadblocks that make a deployment before November 14 problematic. We've also just started a second project, which would be more specifically focused as a Zealotry replacement, without worries about new bells or new whistles. Both of these possibilities are being done out-of-house, by Skotos players, but they're receiving our highest level of attention for whatever support they need, as this is all our top priority.

So, consider this a short-term fix, but in the meantime if you use Zealotry, please download one of the alternative browsers and test them out ASAP.
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Grendel's Revenge Free Accounts

On December 15th of 2012, Grendel's Revenge enabled free accounts for play. This announcement is following in the suit of TEC's own free account announcement, serving as a reminder to any new or returning players that are browsing the forums.

For all the details about what free accounts are, look no further than here: http://forum.skotos.net/showthread.php?t=95655

In order to log into GR for free, simply visit this page to sign into your Skotos account (ignoring any subscription notices it may give): https://www.skotos.net/user/login.php

Then click the following link for Zealotry/Firefox: zealotry:@GrendelsRevenge.skotos.net...login/Zealotry

Or this link for Alice/Internet Explorer: http://grendelsrevenge.skotos.net/mo...in/alice.shtml

Problems? Questions? You can email the GR staff group at grendel.staff@gmail.com
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In Development: a new Skotos client

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  • In Development: a new Skotos client

    I've had many, many back-burner projects as a GM of Grendel's Revenge, and one of them was mastering the client so that it could work better for us.

    That project has started to bear fruit; I've applied what I've learned to developing a new client for Skotos - one that works seamlessly in modern browsers, and that I can support with new features.

    See the main announcement for full details. I've learned to be wary of release dates, but I'm trying to have a beta available this spring. The client will come first to GR and TEC, as they share the same server architecture. Thanks to the other staff of GR and the staff of TEC over the years, especially Koyo for taking care of a major speed bump along the way.

    If you have any questions about how the client will work for GR, please feel free to post them. Ideas are welcome too - the base design is intended to mimic Alice and Zealotry, but I plan to add options that break from the mold, and welcome ideas for more.
    Wyrhtan, Grendel's Revenge GameMaster

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    One of the big things that stopped me from moving off Firefox fully to Chrome was the fact that I couldn't open GR in Chrome. So this is pretty cool if it'll finally let me do that.
    -Usuichii, Great Scientist.

    Smarmy the Titan bellows to you, "You look almost like an Ugly."

    Blackhand the Orc grumbles: I don't know what to call you. No ugly is that vile, and no proper creature of Uthgol has ever had such a lack of honor!

    Usuichii 1, Usuichii 2

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    • #3
      I was thinking... tablet and phone screens have very limited space. How about making it so the player can choose which side-screens to display, even none of them.
      SMARMY the GIANT

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Smarmy View Post
        tablet and phone screens have very limited space. How about making it so the player can choose which side-screens to display, even none of them.
        Removing one sidebar or the other is already an option in the new client, and if you want to pick and choose, you can move the things in the sidebars around, or turn them off entirely.
        Wyrhtan, Grendel's Revenge GameMaster

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        • #5
          **Does the 'happy dance'.**

          Whoooot!

          SMARMY the GIANT

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          • #6
            I see the part about touch-based features to cut down on typing; will it also support voice-to-text?
            Originally posted by Rythgen
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            • #7
              Originally posted by fiendish_thingy View Post
              I see the part about touch-based features to cut down on typing; will it also support voice-to-text?
              There's nothing in the client that should get in the way of voice-to-text, but it'll be up to the operating system or a 3rd party program to do the actual conversion.

              So if your phone, tablet or computer can already do voice-to-text, it should work here.
              Wyrhtan, Grendel's Revenge GameMaster

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Usuichii View Post
                One of the big things that stopped me from moving off Firefox fully to Chrome was the fact that I couldn't open GR in Chrome. So this is pretty cool if it'll finally let me do that.
                Exactly my thoughts. Firefox taxes my system to no end, and Internet Explorer...well, it's Internet Explorer. I'll be far more likely to play GR if it's available in Chrome.
                Marx the Lich
                Rykon the Dwerger

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                • #9
                  I'm pumped about this! So much, I may actually poke around GR for a bit today
                  Originally posted by Usuichii
                  Anuu, Master of Scrolls. All of them.

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                  • #10
                    Well, this is big news. Thanks Wyrhtan!
                    Japes point towards Studgrob. A single point of light flashes from the middle of Studgrob's body, then starts growing larger until a great dome of bluish-white energy consumes him and his surroundings! 999999 points of damage! Studgrob roars a final time before dying

                    Japes says, "Ninja minotaurs in love."
                    Japes flails.


                    Synchar: Toastah!
                    Toasty: o.o
                    Toasty: OMG, IT'S A SYNCHAR.
                    <Toasty thwacks you with a rolled up newspaper.>

                    sgp NO LAG! *can't breath* *starts to turn blue*
                    StoryGuide Damocles responds, "Just calm down. Maybe it's the start of great things."

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                    • #11
                      While we wait on this new client, I'm curious how people are playing currently. Firefox can't be used any more (as far as I know) and IE has serious structure issues (for example, if I go full screen it overlaps the text window and the favor/cooldown bar/resource box). I've switched back to IE and can survive without being able to see certain elements of the client, but I'm wondering if anyone else is doing something that works better?
                      Japes point towards Studgrob. A single point of light flashes from the middle of Studgrob's body, then starts growing larger until a great dome of bluish-white energy consumes him and his surroundings! 999999 points of damage! Studgrob roars a final time before dying

                      Japes says, "Ninja minotaurs in love."
                      Japes flails.


                      Synchar: Toastah!
                      Toasty: o.o
                      Toasty: OMG, IT'S A SYNCHAR.
                      <Toasty thwacks you with a rolled up newspaper.>

                      sgp NO LAG! *can't breath* *starts to turn blue*
                      StoryGuide Damocles responds, "Just calm down. Maybe it's the start of great things."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Aco View Post
                        Firefox can't be used any more (as far as I know)
                        I've been using Firefox without any problems.

                        SMARMY the GIANT

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                        • #13
                          Mine updated to the latest version and in that release I wasn't able to enable unsigned extensions any more. I was able to get around this by installing the extended support release version which does still allow unsigned extensions to be used.
                          Japes point towards Studgrob. A single point of light flashes from the middle of Studgrob's body, then starts growing larger until a great dome of bluish-white energy consumes him and his surroundings! 999999 points of damage! Studgrob roars a final time before dying

                          Japes says, "Ninja minotaurs in love."
                          Japes flails.


                          Synchar: Toastah!
                          Toasty: o.o
                          Toasty: OMG, IT'S A SYNCHAR.
                          <Toasty thwacks you with a rolled up newspaper.>

                          sgp NO LAG! *can't breath* *starts to turn blue*
                          StoryGuide Damocles responds, "Just calm down. Maybe it's the start of great things."

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