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  • Armataan
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    Brudox demonstrated 4060 ranks in spears.
    Just in spears.
    Culexus has 4160 in CMs+Shields+Avros+Pardelian+OHS.

    I wonder if all of you recognize how ridiculously, stupidly, high Brudox's ranks are. Especially given what I know about his shields and CMs.

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  • Armataan
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    Originally posted by Hordini View Post
    I'm pretty sure I've seen Brudox beat swordsmen who were 150/150.
    In response to this...

    Jeanine rolled a 72/98 ankletrap on me, then flung me and followed up with a 5/100 necktrap. She had done 2 HP of damage before this. But that fight was 'over' because of the 5/100 roll. I immediately recognized that I had lost the fight due entirely to luck.

    When I came out of fling roundtime, I went defensive, she started to constrict, I then took my first attempt to break, and rolled a 95/96. Laughed maniacally, and stood up.

    Luck is a very real part of any game. But you don't balance based on luck. You balance assuming luck normalizes.

    A 5/5 spearman could theoretically beat a 500/500 fighter with obscene enough luck. But that is not the rule it is the exception.

    ---

    If you take away a wall shield, you functionally disable the Pardelian skillset. There's still a couple moves useable but none of the identifying moves. Even without that though, a 150/150 swordsman could easily dominate a 500/500 spearman (at equal stats) in the 80th percentile or above. You are only going to see Brudox win those fights if he outsmarts the other fighter, or gets lucky, or (often) some combination of both.

    And that quite simply is not fair or just.

    There is an obligation to equalize. Swords need to come down, whips need to 'come up' but have their traps scaled back, a few other skillsets need to come up. Spears are actually extremely well balanced, but they are well balanced in an unbalanced game which makes their balance meaningless. They are also slightly boring. I think that one or two more 'exciting' 2h moves, and one or two more 'exciting' hoplite moves, would serve the skillset well, while bringing them up in power to reach equivalency with pankration/pardelian/2hax/nelsor/whips/avros, who could serve as the new basis of 'balanced'. From there, the rest of the skillsets that are trailing could slowly be brought up too. This will also work to excite the player-base since every skillset in the game will get better, except swords. Whips will even get better, they will just have their bread and butter go to moves weakened to facilitate that.

    </hijack>

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  • Armataan
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    Hypno was 200 in some of the dodges, man. You taught me to 200.

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  • hypnoticus
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    Character Background

    Name: Hypnoticus Spectre
    Homeland : Tuchea
    Marital Status: Renesai Rosewater
    Citizenship Status: Forginer
    Social Standing:
    Popularity: -0.00

    Age: 18

    Physical Characteristics

    Height: 5' 10" Weight: 194 lbs. Handed: Right
    Eyes: black Hair: black Complexion: tan

    Health Points: 0/136 Fatigue: 0% State: dead

    Load: 0 lbs.
    Encumbrance: You are bearing no load to speak of.

    Position: laying

    Attributes:
    Agility: Inhuman Appearance: average
    Charisma: average Dexterity: above average
    Empathy: average Endurance: fairly good
    Judgement: average Memory: average
    Perception: fairly good Reasoning: average
    Speed: Inhuman Strength: Inhuman
    Willpower: above average

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Tridents 300 grand master

    Trident Jab 150 grand master
    Trident Stab 150 grand master
    Trident Slash 100 grand master
    Trident Simple Block 150 grand master
    Trident Cross Block 150 grand master
    Trident Tine Block 150 grand master
    Trident Vital Jab 300 grand master
    Trident Weapon Catch 100 grand master
    Trident Pierce 150 grand master
    Trident Blunt Bash 100 grand master
    Trident Lunge 1 novice
    Trident Rotating Bash 100 grand master
    Trident Harpoon Stance 90 grand master
    Trident Feint 1 novice
    Trident Grip 90 grand master
    Trident Accuracy 90 grand master
    Trident Parting Jab 150 grand master
    Trident Swinging Disarm 16 practiced
    Trident Foot Pin 100 grand master

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Combat Maneuvers 300 grand master

    Basic Dodge 150 grand master
    Swaying Dodge 150 grand master
    Leg Dodge 150 grand master
    Sidestep 150 grand master
    Killing Blow 1 novice
    Jump 150 grand master
    Fall Back 26 familiar
    Recovery 50 outstanding
    Combat Guarding 30 learned
    Duck 150 grand master
    Rolling Dodge 1 novice
    Backwards Rise 100 grand master
    Missile Awareness 40 capable
    Feint Awareness 75 adept

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Brawling 101 grand master

    Punch 51 outstansding
    Kick 10 practiced
    Slap 51 outstanding
    Knee 10 practiced
    Stomp 101 grand master
    Knee break 101 grand master
    Swat block 80 master
    Face block 80 master
    Bear hug 80 master
    Sucker punch 51 outstanding



    I had a bunch of non coms that I nostly sucked in, I could skin pretty well and had a perfect forest hide, but these are Hypno's ranks as best as I can remember them! Oh, I knew pankration too but had never started training it. I think his slots were Tridents/CMs/brawling/Pank/ Streetsmarts/hunting/healing/setups.

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  • Tweninger
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    Originally posted by Hordini View Post
    I'm pretty sure I've seen Brudox beat swordsmen who were 150/150.
    Brudox, or any spearsmen, can win against anyone in the game if he/they pull off the ultimate combo.

    With strength and speed (reflexes would work) a well timed stomp in an aggressive/berserk stance, followed by an impale = victory.

    Did it far to often against Koppester, who was 300/200 and 200/150 in all defensive moves with max stats.

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  • lykatos
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    Originally posted by Hordini View Post
    Even without a wall shield?
    With a long shield 7/10

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  • Hordini
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    Originally posted by lykatos View Post
    8 times out of 10 the swordsman will win the fight easily.

    Even without a wall shield?

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  • lykatos
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    Originally posted by Hordini View Post
    I'm pretty sure I've seen Brudox beat swordsmen who were 150/150.
    8 times out of 10 the swordsman will win the fight easily.

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  • Hordini
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    Originally posted by Armataan View Post
    And he will still lose to swordsmen that are 150/150.



    UNTIL WE SUCCED IN NERFING THEM.

    I'm pretty sure I've seen Brudox beat swordsmen who were 150/150.

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  • Armataan
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    Originally posted by Arconn9 View Post
    One day your character will be as good as my beta character.
    And he will still lose to swordsmen that are 150/150.



    UNTIL WE SUCCED IN NERFING THEM.

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  • Arconn9
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    One day your character will be as good as my beta character.

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  • Cecil78
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    Brudox Oaknshield

    Spears 500 grand master 154 27.09

    Spear Stab 500 grand master 134
    Spear Butt Smash 200 grand master 105
    Spear Charge 200 grand master 124
    Spear Overhead Thrust 500 grand master 115
    Spear Jab 201 grand master 124
    Spear Slash 90 grand master 74
    Spear Sweep 90 grand master 74
    Spear Impale 51 outstanding 64
    Spear Butt Block 200 grand master 124
    Spear Simple Block 200 grand master 124
    Spear Weapon Strike 500 grand master 96
    Spear Rounding Block 200 grand master 86
    Spear Throw 150 grand master 102
    Spear Feint 30 learned 73
    Spear Round Strike 50 outstanding 52
    Spear Parting Jab 200 grand master 124
    Spear Accuracy 90 grand master 74
    Spear Grip 90 grand master 62
    Spear Upward Slash 200 grand master 105
    Spear Chop 500 grand master 115

    Just my recent work I am currently workin on all of the one handed moves to compliment my hoplite stance..

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  • Cecil78
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    Originally posted by Justinian_A View Post
    Character Background

    Name: Iraetus Ravenna
    Homeland : Iridine
    Marital Status: Single
    Citizenship Status: Iridine
    Social Standing: Head Count
    Popularity: -0.00

    Age: 18

    Physical Characteristics

    Height: 6' 3" Weight: 237 lbs. Handed: Right
    Eyes: dark gray Hair: black Complexion: olive

    Health Points: 0/124 Fatigue: 0% State: dead

    Load: 0 lbs.
    Encumbrance: You are bearing no load to speak of.

    Position: laying

    Attributes:
    Agility: very good Appearance: average
    Charisma: very poor Dexterity: slightly below average
    Empathy: slightly above average Endurance: above average
    Judgement: slightly above average Memory: average
    Perception: slightly above average Reasoning: slightly above average
    Speed: slightly above average Strength: exceptional
    Willpower: slightly above average

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Tridents 200 grand master 133 18.83

    Trident Jab 50 outstanding 189
    Trident Stab 60 expert 194
    Trident Slash 50 outstanding 156
    Trident Simple Block 70 adept 0
    Trident Cross Block 70 adept 0
    Trident Tine Block 80 master 0
    Trident Vital Jab 78 adept 170
    Trident Weapon Catch 20 familiar 116
    Trident Sweep 1 novice 36
    Trident Pierce 90 grand master 176
    Trident Blunt Bash 50 outstanding 156
    Trident Lunge 1 novice 69
    Trident Rotating Bash 50 outstanding 123
    Trident Harpoon Stance 91 grand master 210
    Trident Feint 4 novice 45
    Trident Grip 90 grand master 123
    Trident Parting Jab 33 learned 139
    Trident Swinging Disarm 10 practiced 96
    Trident Foot Pin 10 practiced 63

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Combat Maneuvers 100 grand master 115 8.26

    Basic Dodge 70 adept 0
    Swaying Dodge 80 master 0
    Leg Dodge 50 outstanding 0
    Sidestep 90 grand master 0
    Killing Blow 1 novice 60
    Jump 100 grand master 0
    Fall Back 25 familiar 117
    Recovery 50 outstanding 147
    Combat Guarding 23 familiar 84
    Duck 80 master 0
    Rolling Dodge 10 practiced 0
    Backwards Rise 50 outstanding 101
    Battle Cry 1 novice 89
    Missile Awareness 4 novice 40
    Reflexes 90 grand master 121
    Feint Awareness 75 adept 131

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Healing 18 practiced 46 11.66

    Bandage Wound 3 novice 43
    Clean Wound 1 novice 37
    Stitch Wound 17 practiced 55
    Diagnose 1 novice 26

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Setups 44 capable 84 10.32

    Draw Attention 1 novice 66
    Ear for Coin 1 novice 66
    Lip Reading 43 capable 104
    Thief's Look 3 novice 72
    herts my eyes to see this guy is drifted into the next life

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  • Justinian_A
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    Character Background

    Name: Iraetus Ravenna
    Homeland : Iridine
    Marital Status: Single
    Citizenship Status: Iridine
    Social Standing: Head Count
    Popularity: -0.00

    Age: 18

    Physical Characteristics

    Height: 6' 3" Weight: 237 lbs. Handed: Right
    Eyes: dark gray Hair: black Complexion: olive

    Health Points: 0/124 Fatigue: 0% State: dead

    Load: 0 lbs.
    Encumbrance: You are bearing no load to speak of.

    Position: laying

    Attributes:
    Agility: very good Appearance: average
    Charisma: very poor Dexterity: slightly below average
    Empathy: slightly above average Endurance: above average
    Judgement: slightly above average Memory: average
    Perception: slightly above average Reasoning: slightly above average
    Speed: slightly above average Strength: exceptional
    Willpower: slightly above average

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Tridents 200 grand master 133 18.83

    Trident Jab 50 outstanding 189
    Trident Stab 60 expert 194
    Trident Slash 50 outstanding 156
    Trident Simple Block 70 adept 0
    Trident Cross Block 70 adept 0
    Trident Tine Block 80 master 0
    Trident Vital Jab 78 adept 170
    Trident Weapon Catch 20 familiar 116
    Trident Sweep 1 novice 36
    Trident Pierce 90 grand master 176
    Trident Blunt Bash 50 outstanding 156
    Trident Lunge 1 novice 69
    Trident Rotating Bash 50 outstanding 123
    Trident Harpoon Stance 91 grand master 210
    Trident Feint 4 novice 45
    Trident Grip 90 grand master 123
    Trident Parting Jab 33 learned 139
    Trident Swinging Disarm 10 practiced 96
    Trident Foot Pin 10 practiced 63

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Combat Maneuvers 100 grand master 115 8.26

    Basic Dodge 70 adept 0
    Swaying Dodge 80 master 0
    Leg Dodge 50 outstanding 0
    Sidestep 90 grand master 0
    Killing Blow 1 novice 60
    Jump 100 grand master 0
    Fall Back 25 familiar 117
    Recovery 50 outstanding 147
    Combat Guarding 23 familiar 84
    Duck 80 master 0
    Rolling Dodge 10 practiced 0
    Backwards Rise 50 outstanding 101
    Battle Cry 1 novice 89
    Missile Awareness 4 novice 40
    Reflexes 90 grand master 121
    Feint Awareness 75 adept 131

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Healing 18 practiced 46 11.66

    Bandage Wound 3 novice 43
    Clean Wound 1 novice 37
    Stitch Wound 17 practiced 55
    Diagnose 1 novice 26

    Skills/Actions Rank Rank Bonus Skill Points
    ----------------------- ----------------------- ---------- ------------
    Setups 44 capable 84 10.32

    Draw Attention 1 novice 66
    Ear for Coin 1 novice 66
    Lip Reading 43 capable 104
    Thief's Look 3 novice 72

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  • krisslanza
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    Only 15,293 years young!

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