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Edit: Our new HTML5 client (Orchil) is now open for beta testing in The Eternal City and Grendel's Revenge. Feel free to try give it a whirl at http://test.skotos.net/orchil/

Edit: We have made great strides toward a new HTML5 client, which should offer a replacement to Zealotry. We're hoping to release that in the very near future, but in the meantime, using Pale Moon remains the best method for ensuring there is zero interruption to your game playing during the transition.

As of November 14, Mozilla will be auto-updating all copies of Mozilla Firefox to Mozilla 57, a new edition of their browser that will disable all legacy add-ons. This will probably include the majority of the plug-ins that you use on Mozilla, including the Skotos Zealotry plug-in.

This is a big problem for us because Zealotry is the most stable of our clients at this time, and the one that we believe is in the widest use. There's unfortunately no easy way to update it, because we'd have to rewrite it from practically scratch, using their new programming system.

There are tricks that you could use to to prevent Mozilla updates, but we don't particularly suggest them, as you want to have a clean, secure browser. Fortunately, there are two alternative browsers that will support Zealotry. Each of them branched off of an earlier version of Mozilla Firefox, and each of them continues to be updated for important security issues.

Pale Moon Browser

The Pale Moon browser is our suggested replacement. It is a totally separate browser that branched off of Firefox some years ago. It will continue to support the classic plug-ins.

To install it:
  • Install Pale Moon (Windows & UNIX only)
  • Install the Zealotry XPI on Pale Moon
  • Restart the Pale Moon Browser
  • Play on Pale Moon

The official version of Pale Moon only supports Windows and UNIX, but you can also get a slightly less official version of Pale Moon for the Mac. We've tested it out and it looks like it's clean and works correctly, but use your own level of caution in working with the Mac variant.

If You Have Errors

Some users are experiencing "Content Encoding Errors" when using Pale Moon and Zealotry. As best we can tell, this is due to an incompatibility between Windows 8.1, Pale Moon, and Plugins. If you have this problem (or any other), we suggest instead using Mozilla's extended-release version of Firefox, which branched at Firefox 52. It's expected to remain supported until at least June 28, 2018, by which time Mozilla is planning to jump their ESR to a post-plugin phase. This is therefore a short-term solution, but we expect to have full release of our New HTML5 client well before that.

To install it:
The Big Picture

Our larger-scale goal is to introduce a new client that will be usable on any browser and make our games generally more accessible. We've had a HTML5 client in process since last year, but are currently hitting roadblocks that make a deployment before November 14 problematic. We've also just started a second project, which would be more specifically focused as a Zealotry replacement, without worries about new bells or new whistles. Both of these possibilities are being done out-of-house, by Skotos players, but they're receiving our highest level of attention for whatever support they need, as this is all our top priority.

So, consider this a short-term fix, but in the meantime if you use Zealotry, please download one of the alternative browsers and test them out ASAP.
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    I'll make an effort to push the following project for the next while.

    Basically I'd like to crowdsource the PB to flesh out concepts in the gameworld that exist in theory, but have little tangible substance to them, in the form of stories and legends.

    This is much like the library content, but more specific in scope. I would also appreciate "contemporary" stories as well: Any events or interactions IG that might be forgotten at this point, which can be summarized in a story format.

    For each category, I will be using players to help manage submissions. For now I am just starting out with one category. From there, once the manager has forwarded submissions to me, I will work with the writer to adapt and edit them for continuity prior to widespread release.

    RP awards for submissions will be given out as well.

    1 -- Erealite Lore

    We will be filling some gaps in Erealite lore, providing background for stories and legends outside of the known Priestess Iridine and Creation stories. This is to be public lore: Stories that the Cult of Ereal (or one of its accepted counterparts) endorses and has allowed to remain accessible to the people.

    Xianna will be the go-to on this: She will be posting more specific guidelines and suggestions later today.


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    I am leaving this thread open, but I would prefer to limit it to announcements and posts from the managers and myself as much as possible. Feel free to start a separate discussion thread for comments, criticism and topic suggestions. If it becomes cluttered, I'll be more restrictive.

    This has been done from time to time in the past, but from what I've seen usually results in a couple documents leaking IG and the rest being forgotten about. Now that we have the infrastructure and precedent of the library, I think we can be a lot more successful and leave it open to everyone down the road.

    Thank you for your input!
    Active Projects:
    • Priorities
      1. Bug fixes
      2. Fixes for existing hunting grounds/NPCs (ongoing)
      3. Basran Hill story, eventual lead to ToH.
    • Side projects
      1. Malezzerai (dialogue ongoing)
      2. Armour Rebalancing (ongoing)
      3. Assisting org/event GMs with lore consistency and coding support.
      4. Additions to Monlon (TBA), Blackvine (after Monlon), Rock Valley (after BV), Steps (after RV.) Overall goal to add substance to existing regions.

  • #2
    An old example that I think might give some inspiration:

    Origin Story of the Monlon Vigiles
    Active Projects:
    • Priorities
      1. Bug fixes
      2. Fixes for existing hunting grounds/NPCs (ongoing)
      3. Basran Hill story, eventual lead to ToH.
    • Side projects
      1. Malezzerai (dialogue ongoing)
      2. Armour Rebalancing (ongoing)
      3. Assisting org/event GMs with lore consistency and coding support.
      4. Additions to Monlon (TBA), Blackvine (after Monlon), Rock Valley (after BV), Steps (after RV.) Overall goal to add substance to existing regions.

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    • #3
      The guidelines so far that I'm looking for with this project are fairly simple:
      • The Cult of Ereal states there is ONE god and one god only, though Priestess Iridine is certainly held in extremely high regard second only to him. The moons have no special significance at all, much less represent any sort of entity -- divine or otherwise.
      • Erealite magic = Good. All other magic = Bad.
      • In general, people believing in other gods are thought to be backwards, provincial, superstitious, misguided, or even delusional if not outright dangerous.
      All submissions should reflect this.



      My notion has always been that Twilight is a sort of underworld or limbo for those who didn't receive proper rites and/or have either rejected Ereal or were rejected by him, but so far it has never really been defined from an Erealite perspective. So...specific request for submissions in this vein I would love to see are:
      • the origin of Twilight itself and its relationship to the world of the living
      • the nature and symbolism of the owls that carry away the manes inside Twilight and how they relate to Ereal
      • how to avoid becoming a 'lost' soul trapped in Twilight

      Other suggestions for some specifics include a listing of Virtues espoused and encouraged by Erealite faith, both public and private, and a guide for personal devotions -- shrines in the home, pilgrimages, making offerings, etc. Or anything else of that flavor that would be the sort of thing good Erealite children would learn at the temple's equivalent of Sunday School.

      Ereal's many shrines:
      There are lots of little and not so little shrines all over that need to have some kind of history and/or significance attributed to them.

      General submissions:
      • Prayers, poems of glorification, etc. to both Iridine and Ereal
      • Stories of signs or wonders performed by Ereal, his priests, or other followers
      • Anecdotal stories from past events that could be used to expand Erealite lore (seen through an Erealite filter so to speak). These don't necessarily have had their focus on Ereal or the Cult (or Soldiers of Ereal), but could still be used to add depth to the state religion.

      This is all just a starting point, as things come in we will update this thread. Remember, this is all for lore approved by the Cult for public consumption, so stories of rampant corruption in the Temple, SoE, etc. would be buried deep in the temple archives, never to see the light of day. Much like your submissions will end up if you go that route. ;D

      Submitting:
      You can PM your submissions here to Xianna. I'll do my best to check them at least once a day and get feedback to those who send things in. If this starts to prove inadequate, I'll update the thread with an email to use.
      I cannot pretend to be impartial about the colors. I rejoice with the brilliant ones, and am genuinely sorry for the poor browns. (Winston Churchill)

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      • #4
        I'll send you stuff in multiple parts. I'm hitting that 1,000 character limit and am struggling to trim.
        Nothing much to say.

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        • #5
          Gah. I didn't realize the character limit was quite that restrictive. Here's an email to send submissions to for longer ones:

          Erealitelore@gmail.com

          Sorry about any difficulty there!
          I cannot pretend to be impartial about the colors. I rejoice with the brilliant ones, and am genuinely sorry for the poor browns. (Winston Churchill)

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          • #6
            Just to clarify:

            Since the moons do not represent any sort of significance or any particular entity, does that mean that in the accepted lore, Ravan and the others do not exist at all, even as enemies or opponents of Ereal? Does that mean there is no devil-like figure in official Erealite lore? Only Ereal, and no mention at all of anything else? If that is the case, what is the source of evil or struggle in the context of Erealism? Or is that part of what we need to come up with ourselves?


            P.S. - I've sent you an email.
            Don't tread on me.

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            • #7
              The moons are, as it was explained to Xianna, "nothing but rocks in the sky". The moon gods are FALSE gods. Period. End of story. For example, how Xianna says, "The moons are really impressive, but so are mountains. But everyone but the Parcines would think worshipping a mountain was silly." (No offence to my Parcine friends out there. ) There is no Aera, Invex, Lucifal, or Ravan. They are the superstitious stories of a dead civilization that refuses to have the good grace to lay down and just die already. (Remember, this is the 'Erealite filter' of reality. I am not bashing on anyone's characters for believing different. )

              To this end, there is nothing in official Erealite lore that is a single evil entity opposing Ereal. The struggle then is inside each man's soul, to embrace Ereal's Light embodied by Ereal himself and to spread that Ereal-given Light to the rest of the world (e.g. Ereal the Conqueror). (This is also where we need a full list of Virtues to help define this.) What makes a man evil is the wholesale rejection of Ereal and his Light. Ereal is the father of man, so it would be the equivalent to turning against one's blood and rejecting them, something that a culture like that of TEC would find anathema. It would also be rejecting everything that the lawful civilization of Iridine was founded on, rejecting all their core principals and values.

              If you re-read the Creation Story which is canon lore and available in the gameworld help files, some of these virtues represented include selfless service, curiosity (discovery of knowledge and understanding), fidelity, love, compassion, tolerance, and duty. I'm sure I could glean more out of it, but I'd like to see what other people have to add if they like, too.

              This is how I've been interpreting it through Xianna with some guidance from her NPC superiors. I'm sure if I'm off-base here, Kneller will clarify.
              I cannot pretend to be impartial about the colors. I rejoice with the brilliant ones, and am genuinely sorry for the poor browns. (Winston Churchill)

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              • #8
                Just giving this a bump.

                Lore submissions are still being taken at erealitelore at gmail dot com.

                Prayers, shrine backgrounds, stories, parables, whatever floats your boat. Send it in and it will be considered.
                I cannot pretend to be impartial about the colors. I rejoice with the brilliant ones, and am genuinely sorry for the poor browns. (Winston Churchill)

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                • #9
                  The creation story also does a few things all at once, to anybody bothering to think as they read it.

                  World is an entity with thoughts/emotions.

                  World is not Ereal.

                  World existed before Ereal came to her.

                  World gave birth to the children of the world.

                  World does not get mentioned anywhere else in erealite lore outside of the birthing story.

                  World is -abandoned by Ereal after she ruts with him-.


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                  Hordini: Evil comes from the absence of Ereal's light. There is no intelligence or malignance otuside of his light, there is just a collapse of morality or ethics or culture or art because they come from him, he brings them.

                  Originally posted by VinianQuartz
                  HAIL CULEXUS

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Armataan View Post
                    World is -abandoned by Ereal after she ruts with him-.
                    nope, world is "abandoned" by Ereal, after world starts pmsing on Ereal, and Ereal says nuts to this, and takes a walk, but comes back, that's what winter is.

                    but world isn't abandoned, just given some space.

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                    • #11
                      reread the story.
                      'the time of darkness' is covered when Ereal leaves World, and does not return.

                      Winter is explained as a brief absence of Ereal, but 'don't worry, because he isn't completely gone, just spends less time with us, and he promised he'll never completely walk away like he did before again.'

                      Originally posted by VinianQuartz
                      HAIL CULEXUS

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Armataan View Post
                        reread the story.
                        'the time of darkness' is covered when Ereal leaves World, and does not return.
                        if you're talking about the time when priestess Iridine had to bring him back, that was not from rutting with world, that was from his children giving the finger to him, and all turning to the darkness, and other "gods".

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                        • #13
                          Oh. I see. ?Creation has changed from what it used to be. Neato.

                          the ?creation story used to be different, you can still find that story in the palyer's guide, and it is in text form in the game in various places too.

                          Neato altering of the story though. Also explains the sudden obsession with the term 'shephard' by all of the Erealites in the game.

                          Originally posted by VinianQuartz
                          HAIL CULEXUS

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                          • #14
                            I don't mind to have the old cult knowlenge reworked, I would add that it is a necessity but do we have to ignore the past creation story? Is it a new 'official creation story'?
                            Vinian whispers to you, "[ brb just had a naked guy fall into my backyard....WTF!! ]"

                            Je suis Charlie

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                            • #15
                              I am treating it like Genesis and Exodus until told otherwise. Two stories that ninety percent of people think are the same story, but 10% recognize have completely separate 'facts'

                              Originally posted by VinianQuartz
                              HAIL CULEXUS

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