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ZEALOTRY Users: Critical Notice on Continued Use

Edit: Our new HTML5 client (Orchil) is now open for beta testing in The Eternal City. Feel free to try give it a whirl at http://test.skotos.net/orchil/

Edit: We have made great strides toward a new HTML5 client, which should offer a replacement to Zealotry. We're hoping to release that in the very near future, but in the meantime, using Pale Moon remains the best method for ensuring there is zero interruption to your game playing during the transition.

As of November 14, Mozilla will be auto-updating all copies of Mozilla Firefox to Mozilla 57, a new edition of their browser that will disable all legacy add-ons. This will probably include the majority of the plug-ins that you use on Mozilla, including the Skotos Zealotry plug-in.

This is a big problem for us because Zealotry is the most stable of our clients at this time, and the one that we believe is in the widest use. There's unfortunately no easy way to update it, because we'd have to rewrite it from practically scratch, using their new programming system.

There are tricks that you could use to to prevent Mozilla updates, but we don't particularly suggest them, as you want to have a clean, secure browser. Fortunately, there are two alternative browsers that will support Zealotry. Each of them branched off of an earlier version of Mozilla Firefox, and each of them continues to be updated for important security issues.

Pale Moon Browser

The Pale Moon browser is our suggested replacement. It is a totally separate browser that branched off of Firefox some years ago. It will continue to support the classic plug-ins.

To install it:
  • Install Pale Moon (Windows & UNIX only)
  • Install the Zealotry XPI on Pale Moon
  • Restart the Pale Moon Browser
  • Play on Pale Moon

The official version of Pale Moon only supports Windows and UNIX, but you can also get a slightly less official version of Pale Moon for the Mac. We've tested it out and it looks like it's clean and works correctly, but use your own level of caution in working with the Mac variant.

If You Have Errors

Some users are experiencing "Content Encoding Errors" when using Pale Moon and Zealotry. As best we can tell, this is due to an incompatibility between Windows 8.1, Pale Moon, and Plugins. If you have this problem (or any other), we suggest instead using Mozilla's extended-release version of Firefox, which branched at Firefox 52. It's expected to remain supported until at least June 28, 2018, by which time Mozilla is planning to jump their ESR to a post-plugin phase. This is therefore a short-term solution, but we expect to have full release of our New HTML5 client well before that.

To install it:
The Big Picture

Our larger-scale goal is to introduce a new client that will be usable on any browser and make our games generally more accessible. We've had a HTML5 client in process since last year, but are currently hitting roadblocks that make a deployment before November 14 problematic. We've also just started a second project, which would be more specifically focused as a Zealotry replacement, without worries about new bells or new whistles. Both of these possibilities are being done out-of-house, by Skotos players, but they're receiving our highest level of attention for whatever support they need, as this is all our top priority.

So, consider this a short-term fix, but in the meantime if you use Zealotry, please download one of the alternative browsers and test them out ASAP.
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  • Cut and Lift :PICKPOCKETING

    I have achieved at 5:91 roll.. and auto-fade... but from rank 19-25 I noticed no difference in auto-fade results...

    I'm curious, if i took it to 30 or 40 or 50... would the auto-fade continue to become easier? yes or no?

    Like will it ever be 5:89 ??

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    Try it and find out. A lot of this stuff isn't public knowledge for a reason.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by yezrah7 View Post
      I have achieved at 5:91 roll.. and auto-fade... but from rank 19-25 I noticed no difference in auto-fade results...

      I'm curious, if i took it to 30 or 40 or 50... would the auto-fade continue to become easier? yes or no?

      Like will it ever be 5:89 ??
      If you ever figure it out, please let us know and not be a dick like the person above! Thanks homie

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      • #4
        Find out IG....thanks
        TRproclaim power!

        Originally posted by Armataan
        Did I just get told Synodia was a better RPed character than Culexus?
        Originally posted by Bucaria
        The player of Synodia should be made a GM, he seems to have no favorites and hates everyone equally.

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        • #5
          No you wont auto fade any better than what you are currently.
          .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mikeand View Post
            Find out IG....thanks
            Are we really asking him to find out about mechanics for a skill that everyone knows exists in-game? He didn't ask about the actual "secret" moves.
            <Tivan thinks aloud: No offense, I'd rather take it from behind by an eyeless humanoid from twilight...guess I'll get them myself.>

            Haggard squeaks to MindThrasher, "My only regret about lanc dying...is that Kjel was at the toga.."

            Fidellus whispers something to Lucarnes.
            Carefully reading his lips, you make out the words "I liked it, but I have a thing for blondes in catholic school girl skirts

            A woman in a slinky red nightgown flirts to you, "Bears are repulsive."

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            • #7
              We all know Synodia is a cunt, it's why I ignore him/her/it now.
              .

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              • #8
                check out this website, for all your pickpocketing, setup and streetsmarts needs...

                https://web.archive.org/web/20050205....net/~rune789/

                TRproclaim power!

                Originally posted by Armataan
                Did I just get told Synodia was a better RPed character than Culexus?
                Originally posted by Bucaria
                The player of Synodia should be made a GM, he seems to have no favorites and hates everyone equally.

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                • #9
                  yes it's a blast from the past.
                  TRproclaim power!

                  Originally posted by Armataan
                  Did I just get told Synodia was a better RPed character than Culexus?
                  Originally posted by Bucaria
                  The player of Synodia should be made a GM, he seems to have no favorites and hates everyone equally.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kjel View Post

                    Are we really asking him to find out about mechanics for a skill that everyone knows exists in-game? He didn't ask about the actual "secret" moves.
                    For this, yeah. PP is a skill set based on secrecy and being able to make like-minded friends or find the right spot to meet your Skype buddies for lessons. Healing or outdoors? Sure. Share away. Threads like this used to be taken down quickly though.

                    It's also a question that he could have answered on his own with a few more SP invested in his experiment. Glad you all spared him five minutes of palming.

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                    • #11
                      In a game that regularly has less than 20 people online who cares about who asks what when?

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                      • #12
                        The "everything must remain secret forever" rule made TEC exciting in the early days. Misinformation and hiding mechanical knowledge made it suck as it aged.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by lykatos View Post
                          The "everything must remain secret forever" rule made TEC exciting in the early days. Misinformation and hiding mechanical knowledge made it suck as it aged.
                          You're making a straw man out of my post when clearly it was in reference to one particular skill set. For the set in question and a couple of others that fall along the same lines a little secrecy would actually go a long way to improving things. Having knowledge like trainer locations for criminal skills out there and readily available has already damaged the necessity to make relationships among seedier characters. Since telling him to spend a little more time to figure it out on his own was way out of line, would telling this person to find and ask another thief in game really be too much to ask? There are plenty of people who could have told him IC'ly, "No, once you're able to steal without screwing up there's no need to work on it further" had they been asked. That same interaction could have and likely would have led to further opportunities for his character. Now he's left with an answer from somebody on a forum and no clue where to go next.

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                          • #14
                            My response wasn't directed at you and just about this particular skill set, so you can end your little crusade here. The person asked a simple mechanical question, they didn't ask about trainer locations or how to find things. It was a mechanics question, asked in the mechanics forums... if you didn't want to help him with it then don't. Sometimes people want clarification on how things actually work, and would have still required brackets to be completely answered(which some GMs really hate). His question was no different than, "If I take forging to 100, will I find more resources?" or "If I take leg strike to 100 will the knockdown rate improve"... just because it involves pick pocketing doesn't suddenly make their question taboo.

                            There are plenty of things in TEC where the descriptions of skills and help files make them appear to do things that they don't actually do in game. Also, things change and don't always go announced and unintended bugs happen as a result of other changes. There have also been times when GMs actually read the forums and actually make changes based on posts similar to this.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lantraste View Post
                              Now he's left with an answer from somebody on a forum and no clue where to go next.
                              Uh.. now that someone ACTUALLY answered his QUESTION. I'm pretty sure he knows where to go next.

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