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  • 'Unlearning' Reminder

    You do not get subskills when you re-learn a skillset (with 'hidden' sp from said skillset) that you've completely unlearned. This has been the case since before I was staff (before 2010).

    No, you will not be given subskills. No an exception will not be made. These are your options when choosing to unlearn:
    1. Save enough sp before you unlearn to cover your needs later.
    2. Use RPs to re-arrange your skill-slots instead of unlearning a skill and re-learning it later.
    3. Use @sp-to-gsp in order to afford a subskill to train with.
    4. Use a 'general' skill that will have a high-success rate (because you have no ranks in it) in the skill in order to gain sp. Even if you don't know the subskill, as long as you know the skillset, it will give sp if you roll over success.
    5. Use tears for GSP and/or SP.
    6. Re-learn the skillset with GSP (which will provide subskills, as this is how people learning it for the first time get them).

    These are your only options.

    This post is a reminder, as some recent activity has sparked a renewed trend, and/or people are misinformed and think they are entitled to something that they are not, and so some hard feelings are occurring.

    In summation: You do not get any subskills when you re-learn a previously unlearned skill (unless you do so with GSP). For a more detailed explanation as to why this is the policy, see the post below.
    Last edited by Tale; 07-06-2015, 12:41 PM.
    Game Master Tale
    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. Philosophy is wondering if that means ketchup is actually a smoothie. Common Sense is knowing that no, ketchup is not a smoothie.

  • #2
    Example of learning a skill with GPS in the first slot (10 gsp):


    Fern asks you, "The total comes to two denars and two sterces. Would you still like to train in Outdoor Basics?"
    (y/N)y
    You count out the appropriate number of coins and hand them to Fern.
    You train to rank 1 in Outdoor Basics.

    Skills:
    Code:
    Skills/Actions           Rank                     Rank Bonus  Skill Points
    -----------------------  -----------------------  ----------  ------------
    Outdoor Basics           1         novice         3           0
    
    
    Survival Foraging        1         novice         5
    Firebuilding             1         novice         5
    Find Firewood            1         novice         5
    Craft Basic Torch        1         novice         5
    Dig Firepit              1         novice         5
    Stoke Fire               1         novice         5
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Survival Foraging, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Firebuilding, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Craft Basic Torch, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Dig Firepit, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Stoke Fire, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Find Firewood, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Outdoor Basics, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.

    Sskills:
    Code:
    Skill                    Skill Points
    --------------------     ------------
     
    Outdoor Basics:            12.0
    Sskills Costs:
    Code:
    Skill                    Easy   Average Difficult Impossible 
    ----------------------- ------- ------- --------- ---------
    
    Next Skill                10/ 5   15/ 7    17/ 9     19/11
    Now, if I got the subskills for re-learning with sp, I would have +2sp from when I started. Repeat until I have thousands of free sp. This kind of abuse has happened.


    If you relearn with SP, you could easily save enough sp for a subskill (as as seen in the post above - use one of several other options available to prevent ever ending up with a skillset without any subskills). If you relearn with GSP, it costs you the same amount of GPS as if you were learning it for the first time, so it comes with subskills.
    Game Master Tale
    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. Philosophy is wondering if that means ketchup is actually a smoothie. Common Sense is knowing that no, ketchup is not a smoothie.

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