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ZEALOTRY Users: Critical Notice on Continued Use

Edit: Our new HTML5 client (Orchil) is now open for beta testing in The Eternal City. Feel free to try give it a whirl at http://test.skotos.net/orchil/

Edit: We have made great strides toward a new HTML5 client, which should offer a replacement to Zealotry. We're hoping to release that in the very near future, but in the meantime, using Pale Moon remains the best method for ensuring there is zero interruption to your game playing during the transition.

As of November 14, Mozilla will be auto-updating all copies of Mozilla Firefox to Mozilla 57, a new edition of their browser that will disable all legacy add-ons. This will probably include the majority of the plug-ins that you use on Mozilla, including the Skotos Zealotry plug-in.

This is a big problem for us because Zealotry is the most stable of our clients at this time, and the one that we believe is in the widest use. There's unfortunately no easy way to update it, because we'd have to rewrite it from practically scratch, using their new programming system.

There are tricks that you could use to to prevent Mozilla updates, but we don't particularly suggest them, as you want to have a clean, secure browser. Fortunately, there are two alternative browsers that will support Zealotry. Each of them branched off of an earlier version of Mozilla Firefox, and each of them continues to be updated for important security issues.

Pale Moon Browser

The Pale Moon browser is our suggested replacement. It is a totally separate browser that branched off of Firefox some years ago. It will continue to support the classic plug-ins.

To install it:
  • Install Pale Moon (Windows & UNIX only)
  • Install the Zealotry XPI on Pale Moon
  • Restart the Pale Moon Browser
  • Play on Pale Moon

The official version of Pale Moon only supports Windows and UNIX, but you can also get a slightly less official version of Pale Moon for the Mac. We've tested it out and it looks like it's clean and works correctly, but use your own level of caution in working with the Mac variant.

Mozilla Firefox ESR

An alternative for all users, but especially for Mac users, is Mozilla's extended-release version of Firefox that branched at Firefox 52. It's expected to remain supported until at least June 28, 2016, by which time Mozilla is planning to jump their ESR to a post-plugin phase. This is therefore a short-term solution, but one that should work for a while longer.

To install it:
The Big Picture

Our larger-scale goal is to introduce a new client that will be usable on any browser and make our games generally more accessible. We've had a HTML5 client in process since last year, but are currently hitting roadblocks that make a deployment before November 14 problematic. We've also just started a second project, which would be more specifically focused as a Zealotry replacement, without worries about new bells or new whistles. Both of these possibilities are being done out-of-house, by Skotos players, but they're receiving our highest level of attention for whatever support they need, as this is all our top priority.

So, consider this a short-term fix, but in the meantime if you use Zealotry, please download one of the alternative browsers and test them out ASAP.
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  • 'Unlearning' Reminder

    You do not get subskills when you re-learn a skillset (with 'hidden' sp from said skillset) that you've completely unlearned. This has been the case since before I was staff (before 2010).

    No, you will not be given subskills. No an exception will not be made. These are your options when choosing to unlearn:
    1. Save enough sp before you unlearn to cover your needs later.
    2. Use RPs to re-arrange your skill-slots instead of unlearning a skill and re-learning it later.
    3. Use @sp-to-gsp in order to afford a subskill to train with.
    4. Use a 'general' skill that will have a high-success rate (because you have no ranks in it) in the skill in order to gain sp. Even if you don't know the subskill, as long as you know the skillset, it will give sp if you roll over success.
    5. Use tears for GSP and/or SP.
    6. Re-learn the skillset with GSP (which will provide subskills, as this is how people learning it for the first time get them).

    These are your only options.

    This post is a reminder, as some recent activity has sparked a renewed trend, and/or people are misinformed and think they are entitled to something that they are not, and so some hard feelings are occurring.

    In summation: You do not get any subskills when you re-learn a previously unlearned skill (unless you do so with GSP). For a more detailed explanation as to why this is the policy, see the post below.
    Last edited by Tale; 07-06-2015, 01:41 PM.
    Game Master Tale
    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. Philosophy is wondering if that means ketchup is actually a smoothie. Common Sense is knowing that no, ketchup is not a smoothie.

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    Example of learning a skill with GPS in the first slot (10 gsp):


    Fern asks you, "The total comes to two denars and two sterces. Would you still like to train in Outdoor Basics?"
    (y/N)y
    You count out the appropriate number of coins and hand them to Fern.
    You train to rank 1 in Outdoor Basics.

    Skills:
    Code:
    Skills/Actions           Rank                     Rank Bonus  Skill Points
    -----------------------  -----------------------  ----------  ------------
    Outdoor Basics           1         novice         3           0
    
    
    Survival Foraging        1         novice         5
    Firebuilding             1         novice         5
    Find Firewood            1         novice         5
    Craft Basic Torch        1         novice         5
    Dig Firepit              1         novice         5
    Stoke Fire               1         novice         5
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Survival Foraging, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Firebuilding, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Craft Basic Torch, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Dig Firepit, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Stoke Fire, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Find Firewood, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.
    You unlearn from rank 1 in Outdoor Basics, earning 2 Skill Points in Outdoor Basics.

    Sskills:
    Code:
    Skill                    Skill Points
    --------------------     ------------
     
    Outdoor Basics:            12.0
    Sskills Costs:
    Code:
    Skill                    Easy   Average Difficult Impossible 
    ----------------------- ------- ------- --------- ---------
    
    Next Skill                10/ 5   15/ 7    17/ 9     19/11
    Now, if I got the subskills for re-learning with sp, I would have +2sp from when I started. Repeat until I have thousands of free sp. This kind of abuse has happened.


    If you relearn with SP, you could easily save enough sp for a subskill (as as seen in the post above - use one of several other options available to prevent ever ending up with a skillset without any subskills). If you relearn with GSP, it costs you the same amount of GPS as if you were learning it for the first time, so it comes with subskills.
    Game Master Tale
    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad. Philosophy is wondering if that means ketchup is actually a smoothie. Common Sense is knowing that no, ketchup is not a smoothie.

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